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Catholic hospital argues that a fetus is not a person



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tl;dr version: Woman, pregnant with twins, dies while under hospital's care. Husband sues. Hospital's lawyers argue that there was only one death, not three.



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Ton Chou
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No, the lawyers for the Catholic hospital argued that current state law states that the fetus is not a person. BIG difference.





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GumboPot
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No they are not.

They are arguing that the state does not recognize the fetus as a person and they are using this definition to defend their doctors.






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NC_Tigah
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Catholic hospital argues that a fetus is not a person
It's a German Hospital






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All too typical of Catholoc institutions in the US. Ignore Church doctrine.





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Ton Chou
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All too typical of Catholoc institutions in the US. Ignore Church doctrine.
No, they are not. Would the lawyers be doing their jobs if they neglected state law to defend their client? You can't have it both ways. If the state and its people believe the fetus is a person, then they should change the law and make it a crime to kill it under any circumstances, including abortion. Perhaps this is a chance to show the hypocracy of the government and its people!!






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using the law to their advantage whether they agree with it or not is prudent. Otherwise you would be calling obama a hypocrite for taking corporate donations. Amirite?





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Jim Rockford
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Otherwise you would be calling obama a hypocrite for taking corporate donations. Amirite?


Obama is a hypocrite for doing it. It's nearly impossible to get by in this political environment without corporate money, but he's a hypocrite nonetheless. I'm no Obama fan.






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Ton Chou
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Oh I think its most prudent. If out of the kindness of their hearts they decided to pay out without going to court to stay in line with doctrine, this wouldn't even be a news story. However, should the court rule in the plaintiffs favor on the grounds that they destroyed human life, then what does that do for the whole pro-choice arguement?





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Bunsbert Montcroff
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it's called casuistry

the church has a long and distinguished record :)






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NC_Tigah
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The Catholic Church has got to be one of the biggest abhorrent, obscene jokes on humanity ever.
What a thoughtful, intellectual opinion you set forth there.






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Sounds like lawyers were simply doing their job.





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What a thoughtful, intellectual opinion you set forth there.


By your hint of sarcasm, I take it you have heard opinions like this before then.

Sorry, I got nothing new for you. Shooting down Catholicism and their dogmas and their history (that speaks for itself) has become way too easy.







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Catholic hospital argues that a fetus is not a person
That's exactly what the church is doing. All of this sophistry about the lawyers doing their job by arguing the law is missing the point. If the Catholic hospital really believed that those unborn babies were human beings they would not be taking this stance in court.

It reminds me of the old story about a small town that had historically been "dry." A local businessman decided to build a tavern. A group of Christians from a local church were concerned and planned an all-night prayer meeting to ask God to intervene. It just so happened that shortly thereafter lightning struck the bar and it burned to the ground. The owner of the bar sued the church, claiming that the prayers of the congregation were responsible, but the church hired a lawyer to argue in court that they were not responsible. The presiding judge, after his initial review of the case, stated that "no matter how this case comes out, one thing is clear. The tavern owner believes in prayer and the Christians do not."



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NC_Tigah
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Shooting down Catholicism and their dogmas and their history (that speaks for itself) has become way too easy
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Catholic hospital

Catholic hospitals, Catholic schools, Catholic charities, etc.?

Care to elucidate?






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EthanL
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Catholic hospitals, Catholic schools, Catholic charities, etc.?


I pray to God if I was unconscious from an accident, if my kids had no choice in education, and if I just had 1 million dollars to give away, it would not be to any of those entities you just mentioned.

Looks can be deceiving--
2 Corinthians 11:14






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I don't know why the lawyers even went this route. From what I gather from the article, the doctors were not found at fault so they might as well have stuck with the fetus is a person line.

And props to the hospital for suing the dad to recover cost of suit. Would like to see that happen more often.

Bad things happen. People die. It is not always someones fault.






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And the Colorado bishops are currently investigating this and will hammer them. Complete non-story.





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NC_Tigah
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I pray to God if I was unconscious from an accident, if my kids had no choice in education, and if I just had 1 million dollars to give away, it would not be to any of those entities you just mentioned.
Wow!

Dude you have some serious issues.






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catholictigerfan
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I'm no lawyer but isn't first of all a laywer supposed to argue law not opinion and the law states one person died so it would be absurd to sue for 3 people's death under the law. Now I beleieve three people died in this case but that isn't what the law states





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