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Kolbysfan Denham Springs, La Member since Jun 2007 1425 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 2:19 pm to Teddy Ruxpin)
So the move Al Gore made a few days ago, did he know something?
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Scoop  LSU Fan Bayou State Member since Sep 2005 24639 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 5:28 pm to Kolbysfan)
Being on the board, I'm sure Al Gore knows quite a bit. Apple's move today was utterly ridiculous but it is what it is. There was no way yesterday was going to go well. The gun was cocked for a sell off and anything negative was going to be seized upon to pull the trigger. The expectations have gotten so mind numbingly insane that it was gonna happen.
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donRANDOMnumbers Lafayette Rouge Member since Nov 2006 9767 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:27 pm to Scoop)
I agree that the markets reaction was just dumb. They are still solid, just missed expectations.
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C  LSU Fan The Woodlands, TX Member since Dec 2007 17421 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:29 pm to donRANDOMnumbers)
They are still the most valuable publicly traded company in the world so I'm not sure how ridiculous it is.
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southernelite  McNeese State Fan Lake Charles Member since Sep 2009 33060 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 6:59 pm to C)
They have $200bn in assets just about. they have plenty of time and cash to burn.
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C  LSU Fan The Woodlands, TX Member since Dec 2007 17421 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:04 pm to southernelite)
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cash to burn.
Yeah you think investors are departing now. If they start "burning cash" you will see some major firings at the top.
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Korkstand  LSU Fan Plaquemine, LA Member since Nov 2003 5810 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:52 pm to C)
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Yeah you think investors are departing now. If they start "burning cash" you will see some major firings at the top.
All that cash isn't doing any good sitting in the bank. If they "burn" some on developing new products and expanding into new markets, I think investors would be a little more optimistic.
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Scoop  LSU Fan Bayou State Member since Sep 2005 24639 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:02 pm to Korkstand)
The $137 Billion in the bank is a double edged sword. On one hand, it shows that Apple is the most magnificently managed company maybe in the history of the world. On the other hand, it is the one thing everyone will point to if Apple actually does stagnate and start to slide. Everyone will want to know why they sat on that incredible amount of cash and didn't use it. I think all of this is bull shite and is shameful as far as the 12% slide goes, but reality has to be dealt with.
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Siderophore  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2010 3334 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:11 pm to RidiculousHype)
I wouldnt want to buy into Apple at any point after Job's leaving/death. They are on a bubble right now.
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C  LSU Fan The Woodlands, TX Member since Dec 2007 17421 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/24/13 at 9:11 pm to Scoop)
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incredible amount of cash and didn't use it.
What are they going to spend $130B on? I can't imagine that type of investment unless they wanted to build their own world wide satellite network or something weird like that. They really need to up their dividend if they can't find any meaningful return for all that cash. Pull a microsoft and do a 1-time massive dividend. Tech is a special beast. It doesn't cost much for someone to do something better. Apple is a great company but I think it's business is too risky for long term (decades) of sustained revenue/profits like retail, energy and typical manufacturing.
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gizmoflak  Georgetown Fan Member since May 2007 8613 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/25/13 at 1:14 am to C)
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What are they going to spend $130B on?
bitcoin mining. Duh :wiki:
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C  LSU Fan The Woodlands, TX Member since Dec 2007 17421 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/25/13 at 11:34 am to C)
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They are still the most valuable publicly traded company in the world so I'm not sure how ridiculous it is.
well nevermind... LINK /
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Korkstand  LSU Fan Plaquemine, LA Member since Nov 2003 5810 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/25/13 at 12:42 pm to C)
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What are they going to spend $130B on?
They don't have to spend all of it, but right now most of that is in securities earning extremely low returns. Surely Apple can find a better use for it than letting it sit earning less than 1%, right? quote:
They really need to up their dividend if they can't find any meaningful return for all that cash.
I'm no expert, but wouldn't that be throwing in the towel and saying their growth period is over?
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LSUTOM07  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Dec 2011 269 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:04 pm to RidiculousHype)
So who is putting their money where their mouth is? Who is actually buying shares with the assumption the stock will bounce back above 500 in the next 6-12 months?
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C  LSU Fan The Woodlands, TX Member since Dec 2007 17421 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:12 pm to LSUTOM07)
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So who is putting their money where their mouth is?
All my money is tied up at the moment. I may purchase if it stays in this range for a few months. I should be in buying mode again in late February.
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Scoop  LSU Fan Bayou State Member since Sep 2005 24639 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/25/13 at 5:50 pm to LSUTOM07)
The real problem is the insane view that a company that just recently was the largest by market cap on Earth could possibly maintain a 75% YOY growth rate. Apple turned in record numbers across the board and got destroyed. To hell with putting a dime into a company that is getting held to that impossible standard.
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Blakely Bimbo  Alabama Fan Member since Dec 2010 760 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:54 am to Scoop)
IIRC, Hedge funds were using a pair trade involving AAPL. At one time, Long apple and short GLD was popular. The trades were long Apple and short whatever. I don't know what happened at the close yesterday, but it could be a hedge fund. For anyone who wants to buy Apple I would wait until the dust settles.
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Chris Farley  Maryland Fan Regulating Member since Sep 2009 3079 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 1/26/13 at 11:02 am to Blakely Bimbo)
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I don't know what happened at the close yesterday, but it could be a hedge fund.
It would take a lot of really big hedge funds to wipe out ~50B of Market Cap in an afternoon. This is probably more related to AAPL having a hard time managing expectations in the market place. If you crush expectations every quarter it is going to be difficult to keep living up to everyone's standards.
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Korkstand  LSU Fan Plaquemine, LA Member since Nov 2003 5810 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 2/7/13 at 5:14 pm to C)
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They really need to up their dividend if they can't find any meaningful return for all that cash.
LINK
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ThaBigFella  LSU Fan baton rouge Member since Apr 2006 861 posts

| re: Load up the truck on Apple (Posted on 2/8/13 at 2:13 pm to Korkstand)
its up like $30 this week....things are looking up!!! Im hoping the div increases big time!! or maybe a special dividend? Hopefully tim cook has something big next time he speaks....I think its this upcoming week
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