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| Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/20/13 at 3:55 pm)
I plan on brewing a canebreak clone for my next batch. I was thinking about just starting off with the AHS American wheat kit and adding steens syrup to the boil. My question is how much syrup should I add? And if I should use the cane syrup or the molasses. Thanks
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turbotiger
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:10 am to turbotiger)
Bump. I know my fellow home brewers can offer a little of bit of advice.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:26 am to turbotiger)
I've used the American Wheat kit and it makes a pretty good beer. I would probably try adding just one bottle of the cane syrup to the boil and see how it works for you. If it's not enough, try two next time
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:26 am to turbotiger)
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I plan on brewing a canebreak clone for my next batch. I was thinking about just starting off with the AHS American wheat kit and adding steens syrup to the boil. My question is how much syrup should I add? And if I should use the cane syrup or the molasses. Thanks
I'd got with the syrup but I have no idea how much.
Good luck.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 10:49 am to LoneStarTiger)
Ok I think I'll go with a pound of the syrup and maybe a little molasses for good measure.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:53 am to turbotiger)
I would think a pound for 5 gallons would be good. I'm wondering if you'd add it to the boil or at the end/flameout.
I ask, because I'm thinking of trying a clone as well.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 11:59 am to BMoney)
just ask Andrew what he thinks you should do
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:02 pm to BMoney)
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I'm wondering if you'd add it to the boil or at the end/flameout.
You could add it to the fermenter. Shouldn't matter.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:03 pm to BMoney)
Good question I would think that if you added the syrup at the end of the boil it would preserve more of the cane flavor.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:04 pm to s14suspense)
i would love to make a cane break clone. i have 4 kits coming in today, a strawberry, a weiss, a pecan porter and a chocolate dunkelweizen.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:31 pm to turbotiger)
I'd do no more than 5-10% of your total fermentables. When you add it is up to you. Anytime during the boil is going to affect hop utilization, even more so if you are doing a partial boil. If it were my I'd add it at anywhere from 10 minutes to flameout.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:35 pm to BottomlandBrew)
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When you add it is up to you. Anytime during the boil is going to affect hop utilization, even more so if you are doing a partial boil. If it were my I'd add it at anywhere from 10 minutes to flameout.
interesting
slight hijack
planning to do a honey pale ale or IPA soon. I assume this would be the same with honey as with Steens. For those that have used honey in the past, when did you add it and have you tried adding at different times to test the results?
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:39 pm to BottomlandBrew)
I'm going with all grain. But the extract kit calls for 7 lbs of malt I guess at 10% that would be .7 lbs of syrup. Is that correct?
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:41 pm to turbotiger)
AHS American Wheat
All Grain: 5 lb Base Grains, 4.75 lb Specialty Grains
so 1 lb of Steens would be just a little over 10%
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:43 pm to turbotiger)
Think of it more in terms of gravity. It looks like that kit has an OG of 1.052, so you're looking at adding approximately 2.5-5 gravity points using the syrup. I'm not sure how much cane syrup adds, so that's something to determine.
ETA: And you will have to adjust for your system's efficiency as well. I want to say AHB assumes 65% or 70% efficiency on their all-grain recipes.
This post was edited on 1/21 at 12:45 pm
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:53 pm to BottomlandBrew)
I agree with the 10 minute addition
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 12:57 pm to BottomlandBrew)
Gotcha, I'm not really into precise calculations when I brew. I usually just add a little of this and a little of that and hope for the best. I'll go with a pound and see where that takes me. I'll be sure to post my results.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:03 pm to BottomlandBrew)
I would use the SG of honey (1.040) as a starting point for my calculations.
So I would assume that every 1 lb of cane syrup would give me 40 gravity points. Divided that 40 by the number of gallons left after the boil and that will be the expected boost to your OG.
If you typically have 6 gallons left after boil. 1 lb of cane syrup will boost your OG almost 7 points.
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:30 pm to turbotiger)
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Gotcha, I'm not really into precise calculations when I brew. I usually just add a little of this and a little of that and hope for the best. I'll go with a pound and see where that takes me. I'll be sure to post my results.
You sound like my kind of homebrewer.
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turbotiger
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| re: Homebrew recipe help (Posted on 1/21/13 at 2:18 pm to BMoney)
I hear ya. The only measurement I worry to much about is fermentation temp.
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