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like gay marriage and shite.


CP...when this economy hits flat on it's face, I can guarantee you that there won't be enough concern re 'social issues' to make thin gravy with.

National elections and votes are fast becoming obsolete, in regard to what most of traditional rural Americans believe are GOD-GIVEN rights. And Obama's latest Authoritarian moves just motivated the folk to 'vote' with their money. They did. They GUNNED UP. That ought to spell it out pretty clear; to them that have 'eyes to see'.






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Patrick O Rly
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My opinion is that social issues are state issues not federal issues.


False. They shouldn't be government issues at all.






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dante
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Please offer me an example so I can understand what you mean.

Are you implying that gay couples should be able to marry?






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Poodlebrain
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How many Muslims are you prepared to kill to continue them? There will be no compromise with those who believe as did bin Laden.





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HempHead
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As far as marriage contracts are concerned, the state should not be involved in its licensure. If folks want to have a property-pooling contract, let them hash it out.


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HempHead
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How many Muslims are you prepared to kill to continue them? There will be no compromise with those who believe as did bin Laden.




Yeah, I'm not really worried about Muslims eliminating my freedom to charge interest or drink beer.






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Patrick O Rly
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Yes. What's so hard to understand about that? You think it's somehow more fair if a state decides they can't. It's ridiculous. Either you're for liberty or you're not. The "leave it up to the states" is such a cop out.







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Toddy
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catholictigerfan



That has absolutely nothing to do with same sex marriage. Catholic Charities would have had to do this (if they wished to continue receiving public funding) whether the couple had been married or not.






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Toddy
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How about changes in the curricula of public schools that do not permit parents to opt out their elementary school children from classes when homosexual related matter is taught. That is nothing more than mandatory indoctrination for public school children. The only recourse for parents who object is to send their children to private schools or to home school their children.



Even if that is true, how is this the result of same sex marriage??






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dante
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So am I assuming you think there should be no laws concerning drinking age? No laws concerning age of sexual consent? No laws to inform the parents of a minor receiving an abortion?





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jiggy0
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I don't think it's a cop out. The right thinks the states have had their power lessened by federal interference, altering the balance of state vs federal power. The idea that issues like this should be handled by states is completely in line with their philosophy. According to the GOP, it is "more fair" if a state decides on these issues and I would agree with them.





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Patrick O Rly
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It's funny how you took my stance on consenting adults being ALLOWED (oh thank you masa!) and twisted it into this...

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So am I assuming you think there should be no laws concerning drinking age? No laws concerning age of sexual consent? No laws to inform the parents of a minor receiving an abortion?


That strawman knocks itself over.






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dante
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In my initial post I mentioned 3 social issues. You decided to only respond to the gay marriage aspect. So you get to arbitrarily decide which social issues the state is not allowed to be involved in?


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Poodlebrain
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Even if that is true, how is this the result of same sex marriage??
Because the curriculum was adopted after same sex marriage was legalized by judicial decision. And another court decision mandated that since homosexual marriage is a constitutional right in Massachusetts public schools have an obligation to teach that homosexuality is normal in the interests of diversity and tolerance.

Massachusetts also has a parental notification and opt out law for instruction of certain sexual topics. Homosexual marriage was specifically exempted from being classified as a sexual subject requiring parental notification or opt out by judicial decision.






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Patrick O Rly
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In my initial post I mentioned 3 social issues. You decided to only respond to the gay marriage aspect. So you get to arbitrarily decide which social issues the state is not allowed to be involved in?


My initial statement was lacking. I believe the state does have some moral authority to intervene IF (IF IF IF IF) someone is harmed. Gay marriage doesn't meet that criteria. The legal drinking age and age of sexual consent should (imo) line up with the legal working age.






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dante
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Fair enough, I appreciate your clarification.





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Patrick O Rly
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I'm still very much in the process of examining my beliefs for consistency. Me from a year ago would disagree with me now, and me a year from now may as well.






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ChineseBandit58
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If the DEMs would quit creating an Issue-de-jour the GOP would not have to "abandon" the discussion of said issue.

DEMs are pulling 'issues' out of their asses and the MSM makes them into national crises.

IF the DEMs were serious about their 'issues' where there is no support in the constitutions of the US or the states, they would try to amend the appropriate constitutions instead of using the courts to circumvent the constitution.

But to do that, they would have to get public opinion on their side the old fashioned way - they would have to CONVINCE them that their ideas were best.

They cannot do that because their ideas are stupid and totally illogical. So what they do instead is manufacture a smear against conservatives who say nothing more than "W.T.F.?"






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dante
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You are exactly right about the past presidential election.....it became about taking away women's rights and right to vote issues. Neither were an issue but the MSM allowed it to become the narrative.





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ChineseBandit58
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Neither were an issue but the MSM allowed it to become the narrative.

This has been going on long before the last election.

Clinton's 'worst economy in 50 years' was just as bad. The country had already recovered from one of the most mild recessions in history - especially since it came after the unprecedented growth of the prior decade. Yet the narrative was 'worst economy in 50 years.'

That election is what really soured me on the DEM party and the MSM.

They transformed the 'read my lips' meme into full blown propaganda with the advocacy of the MSM.

Anyone with a brain would know that, beyond the exploitation of the campaign slogan,' the entire DEM rallying cry was absolute bull shite.

Bush had COMPROMISED with the DEMs in congress. The DEMs had promised spending cuts in exchange for the tax increase. And of course they lied - as they always do.

Yet the MSM allowed the DEMs to run against Bush for AGREEING WITH THEM without ever even questioning the idiocy of the issue. They ignored the rebounding economy. They sucked BillyJeff's cock they entire process.

I think that Bush 41 really gave up. He was far too much of a gentleman to engage in the mud-rassling the DEMs use.






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