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Elcid96
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imagine a politician doing the right thing for his state


Mussolini made the trains run on time!!






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GoT1de
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re: Gov Cuomo thinks the 2nd amendment is about hunting?


Well, he has about three years... He is betting gun crime has dropped significantly in those three years when he starts his campaign.

Of course, NY had already lowered the magazine limit to 10 rounds, so he can always say it should have made only single shot's legal... soon the only people in that state with a firearm will be criminals.
Chip away at the 2nd amendment one round, one state at a time.

Glad I live in the south.






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JEAUXBLEAUX
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Roll tide and lets go mets


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TheOcean
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These wild-eyed leftists want the constitution itself eliminated.


Well. It was created 200 years ago by a bunch of dead white guys that failed at the beginning.

Also, no one truly know what the 2nd amendment means, so this is a pretty funny thread.






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MrCarton
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Also, no one truly know what the 2nd amendment means, so this is a pretty funny thread.




I know what it means. It is an easy read.






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TheOcean
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Yeah? Well, shite. Send a letter to the SCOTUS and let them know.





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MrCarton
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Ok





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TheDoc
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Also, no one truly know what the 2nd amendment means, so this is a pretty funny thread.



maybe you had a hard time understanding






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TheDoc
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Send a letter to the SCOTUS and let them know.


look up the heller and mcdonald cases

SCOTUS already ruled on the 2nd amendment






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MFn GIMP
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Also, no one truly know what the 2nd amendment means, so this is a pretty funny thread.


WTF? LINK

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c. Meaning of the Operative Clause. Putting all of these textual elements together, we find that they guarantee the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation. This meaning is strongly confirmed by the historical background of the Second Amendment . We look to this because it has always been widely understood that the Second Amendment , like the First and Fourth Amendment s, codified a pre-existing right. The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it “shall not be infringed.” As we said in United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U. S. 542, 553 (1876) , “[t]his is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed … .”16

Between the Restoration and the Glorious Revolution, the Stuart Kings Charles II and James II succeeded in using select militias loyal to them to suppress political dissidents, in part by disarming their opponents. See J. Malcolm, To Keep and Bear Arms 31–53 (1994) (hereinafter Malcolm); L. Schwoerer, The Declaration of Rights, 1689, p. 76 (1981). Under the auspices of the 1671 Game Act, for example, the Catholic James II had ordered general disarmaments of regions home to his Protestant enemies. See Malcolm 103–106. These experiences caused Englishmen to be extremely wary of concentrated military forces run by the state and to be jealous of their arms. They accordingly obtained an assurance from William and Mary, in the Declaration of Right (which was codified as the English Bill of Rights), that Protestants would never be disarmed: “That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defense suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law.” 1 W. & M., c. 2, §7, in 3 Eng. Stat. at Large 441 (1689). This right has long been understood to be the predecessor to our Second Amendment . See E. Dumbauld, The Bill of Rights and What It Means Today 51 (1957); W. Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States of America 122 (1825) (hereinafter Rawle). It was clearly an individual right, having nothing whatever to do with service in a militia. To be sure, it was an individual right not available to the whole population, given that it was restricted to Protestants, and like all written English rights it was held only against the Crown, not Parliament. See Schwoerer, To Hold and Bear Arms: The English Perspective, in Bogus 207, 218; but see 3 J. Story, Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States §1858 (1833) (hereinafter Story) (contending that the “right to bear arms” is a “limitatio[n] upon the power of parliament” as well). But it was secured to them as individuals, according to “libertarian political principles,” not as members of a fighting force. Schwoerer, Declaration of Rights, at 283; see also id., at 78; G. Jellinek, The Declaration of the Rights of Man and of Citizens 49, and n. 7 (1901) (reprinted 1979).

By the time of the founding, the right to have arms had become fundamental for English subjects. See Malcolm 122–134. Blackstone, whose works, we have said, “constituted the preeminent authority on English law for the founding generation,” Alden v. Maine, 527 U. S. 706, 715 (1999) , cited the arms provision of the Bill of Rights as one of the fundamental rights of Englishmen. See 1 Blackstone 136, 139–140 (1765). His description of it cannot possibly be thought to tie it to militia or military service. It was, he said, “the natural right of resistance and self-preservation,” id., at 139, and “the right of having and using arms for self-preservation and defence,” id., at 140; see also 3 id., at 2–4 (1768)......


We have found only one early 19th-century commentator who clearly conditioned the right to keep and bear arms upon service in the militia—and he recognized that the prevailing view was to the contrary. “The provision of the constitution, declaring the right of the people to keep and bear arms, &c. was probably intended to apply to the right of the people to bear arms for such [militia-related] purposes only, and not to prevent congress or the legislatures of the different states from enacting laws to prevent the citizens from always going armed. A different construction however has been given to it.” B. Oliver, The Rights of an American Citizen 177 (1832).






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TheDoc
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Ocean can't read





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OldTigahFot
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Well. It was created 200 years ago by a bunch of dead white guys that failed at the beginning.


Do you mean the dead white guys who risked being hanged as traitors in order to establish what they believed to be a better life for themselves and their descendants ? Because if they hadn't had the big balls to do what they did, none of us would be enjoying our current freedoms. We could very well be paying the exorbitant tax rate that the Euros put up with.

A Katie Perry left-handed salute to you sir.







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volforever
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More and more people are finding out about your kind, mister chosen one, things will get complicated in the near future.





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davesdawgs
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As Bill Clinton stated in another post and I paraphrase: basically these gun ban advocates are out of touch with most of the nation and certainly don't understand the premise behind the 2nd Amendment.





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Bama323_15
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TheDoc
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As Bill Clinton stated in another post and I paraphrase: basically these gun ban advocates are out of touch with most of the nation and certainly don't understand the premise behind the 2nd Amendment.


It's like dealing with children honestly.






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catnip
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"You don't need 10 bullets to hunt a deer!!"


Wait, liberals are smarter than conservatives. You know that.






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catnip
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As Bill Clinton stated in another post and I paraphrase: basically these gun ban advocates are out of touch with most of the nation and certainly don't understand the premise behind the 2nd Amendment.



...and I need just one bullet to kill a "DEAR".






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VOR
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look up the heller and mcdonald cases


You mean the ones that you seem to misinterpret as saying the 2nd Amendment is absolute?






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TheDoc
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Hack





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