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Datbayoubengal  LSU Fan Port City Member since Sep 2009 4458 posts

| Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:02 pm)
What seems to be the rule for QBs, is that they make their greatest progression from their starting year to their second year. Some notable recent examples: AJ McCarron CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT 219 328 2634 66.8 8.03 69 16 5 211 314 2933 67.2 9.34 85 30 3 Aaron Murray CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT 209 342 3049 61.1 8.92 66 24 8 238 403 3149 59.1 7.81 80 35 14 Teddy Bridgewater CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT 191 296 2129 64.5 7.19 58 14 12 287 419 3718 68.5 8.87 75 27 8 Geno Smith CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT 241 372 2763 64.8 7.43 71 24 7 346 526 4385 65.8 8.34 84 31 7 Matt Barkley CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT 211 352 2735 59.9 7.77 75 15 14 236 377 2791 62.6 7.40 61 26 12 Zach Mettenberger CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT 207 352 2609 58.8 7.41 56 12 7 ????
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LsuTool  LSU Fan Junior U Member since Oct 2009 16375 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:03 pm to Datbayoubengal)
If OL blocks and the WRs catch and coaches get a clue? Sure.
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ipodking  LSU Fan Good Taste is NOT a Democracy Member since Jun 2008 18876 posts
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| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:03 pm to Datbayoubengal)
Absolutely. Dude knows what to expect and what he has to do to get better
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Datbayoubengal  LSU Fan Port City Member since Sep 2009 4458 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:10 pm to ipodking)
That and he's gotten his feet wet. WRs seemed to have improved on the earlier season drops. Only thing I can see is OL because I have no doubt that he gets the deep ball down packed. Footwork can be improved to avoid some sacks, but I think if we can somehow get a solid OL then the stone feet won't be too much of an issue.
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omegaman66  LSU Fan greenwell springs Member since Oct 2007 6542 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:16 pm to LsuTool)
yeah, if the blocking OL and RB'S can do a better job than they did last year AND the wr's start out catching the balls they should AND If Mett learns feel the pressure and knows how to deal with it then absolutely. All Mett needs is a little awareness and a pocket that isn't crushing him from all sides. The he will be fine. Despite his overthrows last year he is one of the best long ball throwers I have ever seen... just not last year. Give him time to make a halfway settled long throw and he is money. I don't think he will ever be able to throw the ball on the run though. Never figured I would be able to throw the ball on the run better than an LSU quarterback but from what he showed last year I think I can best him on that.
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SammyTiger  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Feb 2009 5047 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:26 pm to omegaman66)
He made a few nice throws on The run last year.
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Ace Midnight  LSU Fan Ball, LA - Home, Sweet Home Member since Dec 2006 15770 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:36 pm to Datbayoubengal)
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That and he's gotten his feet wet. WRs seemed to have improved on the earlier season drops. Only thing I can see is OL because I have no doubt that he gets the deep ball down packed. Footwork can be improved to avoid some sacks, but I think if we can somehow get a solid OL then the stone feet won't be too much of an issue.
His internal clock has to get better. He has to get the ball out. When the pocket collapses early, or the back fails to pick up a blitz, that's on the protection - in all other cases, whether it be a max blitz or he holds the ball too long - he HAS to get the ball out, and it has to be a smart throw. That's the gig - that's the job - that's the deal. I know I make it sound easy (it isn't), but I'm really trying to say that it is not that complicated. One-mississippi-two-mississippi-three-mississippi-throw - either where nobody can catch it (but not grounding), OR a catchable ball. Everybody groans when the QB throws it away and every player on the team wants to make a play, but that's the deal. Deliver the ball (securely) or throw it away (securely). That's the job description. That's the 411. That's it.
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CP3LSU25  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Feb 2009 28832 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:38 pm to SammyTiger)
We need Leslie (WR) to be ready for the season.
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Penrod  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2011 2311 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:38 pm to omegaman66)
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All Mett needs is a little awareness and a pocket that isn't crushing him from all sides
Solid post, omega. You're right, Mett already arrived. It was all line problems the second half of the year.
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Never figured I would be able to throw the ball on the run better than an LSU quarterback but from what he showed last year I think I can best him on that.
Yep, the two things Mett is bad at is throwing on the run and quickness to move out of the pocket and gain yardage. A common misperception on this board is that Mett has poor pocket awareness. This is false. He already is showing a seasoned NFL QB's ability to use the pocket. The problem was that the pocket was caving in too fast. His arm is a treasure!
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Penrod  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2011 2311 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:40 pm to Ace Midnight)
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Deliver the ball (securely) or throw it away (securely). That's the job description. That's the 411. That's it.
Another good post! This is the best thread in a while.
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LuzianaFootball  LSU Fan NoVA, Slidell, Orlando, Columbus,GA Member since Dec 2008 1895 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:45 pm to Penrod)
He definitely has to work on his deep passing and pocket mobility. I got tired of watching him over throw every wide open WR on almost every long pass.
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Datbayoubengal  LSU Fan Port City Member since Sep 2009 4458 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:13 pm to Ace Midnight)
That's what i'm saying and that can be taught or learned through experience. As time goes by, good QBs learn to decrease the INTs and increase the TDs. Being as immobile as he was and the OL looking anywhere from God awful to decent enough, really hindered him the most. Faster QBs don't really need the 3 second rule as they can move from the pocket and make plays on the run, but with his feet he should take it that as carved in stone.
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TIGRLEE  LSU Fan Cenla Member since Nov 2009 14687 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:15 pm to Datbayoubengal)
Yes.
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BRAVEHEART  LSU Fan Member since Aug 2012 630 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:18 pm to Datbayoubengal)
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but I think if we can somehow get a solid OL then the stone feet won't be too much of an issue.
You don't just "Get" a solid offensive line. That comes from experience and COACHING. The OL coach can't be spending half his time being the OC. OL is too important a position to have a part-time coach. Also, LSU has no CENTER with any playing experience and that doesn't produce comforting feelings coming into the season not having anybody that's made the OL calls except for a few snaps in OOC games.
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FUBAR  LSU Fan USA Member since Sep 2004 2834 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:45 pm to BRAVEHEART)
One of the big problems is the Offensive Scheme. We seem to have no answer to an all out defensive rush. If our O Scheme allowed an outlet to a Tight End or Running back, he wouldn't be so vulnerable to sacks... like he was against Ole Miss, Arky and Clemson.
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NorthTiger  LSU Fan Shreveport, LA Member since Jan 2004 1294 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 4:05 pm to Datbayoubengal)
Did he make that first year progression?
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damnstrongfan  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Dec 2009 543 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:55 pm to Datbayoubengal)
You either have it, or you don't. The answer is no.
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windhammontanatigers  LSU Fan windham-stanford, montana Member since Nov 2009 2815 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 7:29 pm to Ace Midnight)
Well put.
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lsueddie18  LSU Fan Jacksonville Florida area Member since Mar 2012 438 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:18 pm to windhammontanatigers)
He's not a super mobile guy, so he needs to quicken his release. That alone will make him dramatically better.
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LSUTil_iDie  LSU Fan Monroe, LA Member since Jan 2012 2977 posts

| re: Can Mett make that second year Progression? (Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:43 pm to Datbayoubengal)
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Aaron Murray CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT 209 342 3049 61.1 8.92 66 24 8 238 403 3149 59.1 7.81 80 35 14

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