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EthanL makes a point. Too often people can't comprehend that people are capable of forming divergent opinions relatively independently and not be because of undue influence by "liberal media" or parents

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You know that liberals blame conservative media (fox news) for those with conservative ideas and beliefs. It happens everyday on here. Liberals are by far not victims of this belief.

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Just for future reference, I am keenly interested in what you, and most people have to offer.

But you lose me when you start saying all this. I didn't read anymore of your post.

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'the most noble thing we can do is argue the rights of people we don't agree with', ergo the Westboro church that pickets/protests at a fallen soldiers funeral; or the Casey Anthony's, the O.J. Simpsons, and the many others who flexed their 'rights' to get away with crimes perpetrated.

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Maybe that is why 'mass shootings' are happening more often.

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I'm starting to become more like TxTiger more in the regard that I think people are being led by a very small number of news outlets. Hell, even our TV shows show incredible bias on political subjects.

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Let me explain my position on guns: I don't have any, I guess I am taking chances with my life and my family's.

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I hear people talk about the 'thrill' they get from shooting a gun. When you go to the shooting range, do you shoot at a target with the shape of a human being, or a deer?

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It seems, inadvertently, some of us have already prepared for this moment. Maybe that is why 'mass shootings' are happening more often.

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Is it safe to say that there are 'gun-lovers' out there, who are waiting for something to happen as they buy guns.

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This was very young country when the Constitution was written and the Bill of Rights attached. Much of it was wilderness, we were still under threat of direct foreign influence and the army was small. In my opinion, and based upon the sources I've read, the framers were referring to the ability of communities and/or states to maintain militias to defend themselves or assist the army in doing so. That's where the "well regulated" part of the Amendment comes in. However, the Amendment is now interpreted by some people as having the sole purpose of allowing individuals to arm themselves with whatever the frick they want so that the can defend themselves against the Feds, liberals and Negroes

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Why can't we, you, distance ourselves from the gun-lovers, the 'red-necks' (ill get in trouble for that one), the violence/war-mongers, who just love guns, and are stealing this particular platform to promote/sell guns? The response shouldn't be an increase in gun sales. That is what the ignorant, biased, do

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Most of us here are against abortion. But really, do you believe that birth control is forbidden, like the Catholic Church says?

We are a religiously tolerant nation. But really. Does it really sit well with you that Muslims can build a mosque at ground zero?
Why can't they, or we have the common sense to see that is 'not cool'?

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we were still under threat of direct foreign influence and the army was small. In my opinion, and based upon the sources I've read, the framers were referring to the ability of communities and/or states to maintain militias to defend themselves or assist the army in doing so.

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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Do you see the word "army," "militia," or anything remotely resembling valuing government security over the security of the PEOPLE against their government in the following?

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