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Mike da Tigah
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| Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:08 pm)
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Gentlemen - I fully support the rights of the citizenry to bear arms in support of the freed colonies; however, the rifled barrel is a devise for the battlefield, and is far too dangerous to reside in the hands of the public. Although I support the adoption of the second amendment, reasonable restrictions must apply. Therefore, only unrifled muskets must apply.
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papasmurf1269 
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:10 pm to Mike da Tigah)
What of it?
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Purple Spoon
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:14 pm to papasmurf1269)
Where is that actually written? Link or i call bull shite.
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ClydeFrog 
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:14 pm to Mike da Tigah)
No author and no link makes it difficult to establish credibility.
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Revelator
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:15 pm to Mike da Tigah)
And I'm supposed to believe that the farmers, tradesmen and the general population of the time didn't have guns in their homes?
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Mike da Tigah
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:17 pm to Revelator)
Wait. Am I to take it you folks don't believe this is an actual quote of the time?
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Tigah in the ATL
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:18 pm to Mike da Tigah)
You can find quotes from the convention on most sides of issues. The whole thing was not a unanimous kum ba ya fest.
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Mike da Tigah
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:20 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
It's not.
The fact that our framers made no distinction between cutting edge military and non military weaponry of the time probably gave it away.
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nobodytooimportant
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:20 pm to Mike da Tigah)
stop making shite up. Then fun things about quotes is if you do a google search on a 5 or 6 words phrase, it is is easy to find the original source. IN this case after doing multiple searches on different phrases in that quote, the only thing that came back was your post on this board.
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50Mullets
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:21 pm to Mike da Tigah)
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Wait. Am I to take it you folks don't believe this is an actual quote of the time?
I would be concerned if people weren't skeptical about the unsourced and and strangely discordant quote above. It is highly suspect due to the lack of period vernacular and typos.
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Purple Spoon
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:22 pm to nobodytooimportant)
*device
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Mike da Tigah
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:23 pm to 50Mullets)
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I would be concerned if people weren't skeptical about the unsourced and and strangely discordant quote above. It is highly suspect due to the lack of period vernacular and typos.
That's the only thing that gave it away? 
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onmymedicalgrind
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:25 pm to Mike da Tigah)
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Gun control quote from Manti Te'o's girlfriend
FIFY
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Cold Pizza 
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:26 pm to Mike da Tigah)
The rifle was everything BUT a military arm at the time. They were way too slow to load. A more apt comparison was the Blunderbuss. Blunderbusses were the AR15 of their time.
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CSATiger
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:24 am to Mike da Tigah)
here is what makes this quote false, ther was not a debate on the Bill of Rights at the Constitutional Convention. Duirng the ratification process they had to promise one to the anti-federalist to get passage.
Also it was not called the 2nd Amendment then. They did not pass them as a whole slate, but individually. That one eneded up being the 2nd Amendment. Thier were actually 13 amendments proposed. One did not make it...until the 1990's. The one dealing with congressional pay raised not taking effect until after the next election.
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Porky 
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/19/13 at 3:25 am to Mike da Tigah)
FWIW...I'm fairly sure that rifled barrels in "rifles" didn't make a significant appearance until the middle of the 19th century. They were few and far too expensive to make.
Not only that, these individuals would have welcomed any advantage a firearm would have offered over anyone or anything threatening their newly won freedom and liberty. Unlike a lot of Americans today, they actually cherished their freedom and were intolerant toward the abundance of frivolous laws, restrictions, and outright lies that had been bestowed upon them by their former king and government.
This post was edited on 1/19 at 3:54 am
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Mike da Tigah
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/19/13 at 3:59 am to Porky)
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Not only that, these individuals would have welcomed any advantage a firearm would have offered over anyone or anything threatening their newly won freedom and liberty. Unlike a lot of Americans today, they actually cherished their freedom and were intolerant toward the abundance of frivolous laws, restrictions, and outright lies that had been bestowed upon them by their former king and government.
And that Porky, was THE point. 
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Porky
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/19/13 at 4:04 am to Mike da Tigah)
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Bayou
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/19/13 at 5:27 am to Revelator)
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And I'm supposed to believe that the farmers, tradesmen and the general population of the time didn't have guns in their homes?
Did they have hammers though? 
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Oyster
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| re: Gun control quote from the Constitutional Convention (Posted on 1/19/13 at 6:48 am to Mike da Tigah)
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quote: Gentlemen - I fully support the rights of the citizenry to bear arms in support of the freed colonies; however, the rifled barrel is a devise for the battlefield, and is far too dangerous to reside in the hands of the public. Although I support the adoption of the second amendment, reasonable restrictions must apply. Therefore, only unrifled muskets must apply. Author unknown
Well since this guy's idea didn't make it into the constitution it's obvious he had a minority opinion.
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