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TenTex  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2008 13971 posts

| Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:11 am)
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I was duped along with just about everybody else. When it came down to choosing between Te’o and Johnny Manziel for the No. 1 spot on my Heisman Trophy ballot, I weighed everything and went with Te’o. While the award is supposed to be based on football performance, there’s no question the story of how Te’o had coped with the loss of his grandmother and girlfriend played a role in my vote. I wished I could have gotten the ballot back after the bowl games. Now I would shred the darn thing.
I lost interest in the Heisman vote a few years ago because the best athlete does not always get voted as the Heisman winner. It's more about the Club now instead of the award. So I was surprised to see David Climer of the Tennessean admit he voted for Te’o over Manziel based on the Te'o story losing his Grandmother and Girl Friend. But what can we expect from writers who write stories?
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lsurulz1515  UConn Fan Member since Mar 2007 2666 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:15 am to TenTex)
the Heisman hasn't meant something for some time now. It's unfortunate, because some great players have hoisted that trophy
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Vlad The Inhaler  Colorado State Fan Colorado Member since Sep 2008 1769 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:15 am to TenTex)
It seems wrong but predictable in this society. I mean, people literally vote for President based on the opinions of actors.
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RonFNSwanson  LSU Fan Browtown Member since Mar 2012 11861 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:18 am to TenTex)
It is really pathetic. The media is ruining sports.
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VermilionTiger  LA-Lafayette Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2012 1817 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:20 am to TenTex)
Ingram shouldn't have won it, but its a media driven award.
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bayoujd  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2009 1527 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:25 am to RonFNSwanson)
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The media is ruining sports.
+1,000,0000. And ESPN is the biggest culprit.
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KosmoCramer  Ohio State Fan Member since Dec 2007 40077 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:26 am to bayoujd)
I've heard three different guys say this now. 
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Choupique19  LSU Fan The cheap seats Member since Sep 2005 21443 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:30 am to lsurulz1515)
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the Heisman hasn't meant something for some time now.
Just listen to how they talk about it. There used to be unspoken biases that crept into voters' minds, but now they talk all season long about these things as if they are fact. Collin Klein was a top 2 candidate and this his TEAM loses one game and he's all of the sudden a chump. That was one game where his defense gave up 50+ points (or something like that). So Collin Klein can win the Heisman if his team is undefeated, but if they lose a game he has no shot. I'm not a Collin Klein fan, just pointing out the idiocracy in the Heisman voters. The very best player in the nation didn't win a single award this year. If Jadeaveon Clowney was elgible for the NFL draft, every single NFL team would draft him first. But because he doesn't meet the stupid criteria by numbnut voters, he doesn't win the big awards.
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Tiger Ryno  USA Fan The Brain Trust Member since Feb 2007 35928 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:34 am to TenTex)
Andre Ware adn a couple of other voters have also admitted this...they need to have their votes stipped
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bbap  Indiana Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Feb 2006 71718 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:35 am to Tiger Ryno)
anyone who admits this should have their vote yanked. but wait a month, that way all who plan on admitting it will admit it.
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Choupique19  LSU Fan The cheap seats Member since Sep 2005 21443 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:38 am to TenTex)
Political Board??? So, Rush Limbaugh stated several years ago that the media sometimes props a player up to being better than they actually are because it would make for a great story of overcoming adversity. Hmmmm, looks like Rush was right.
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TenTex  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2008 13971 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:39 am to Choupique19)
I unfortunately listened to about 3 minutes of Clay Travis running his mouth about the Te'o stuff yesterday. Travis was just a gossip hound repeating all the gossip found on boards like these as possible fact. If I want Breaking Internet gossip I can find it here! I expect factual reporting from so called media sports shows. But I guess that's my fail expecting factual reporting.
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Rickety Cricket  Navy Fan Premium Member Member since Aug 2007 25853 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:43 am to TenTex)
It's so stupid, kids have gone through so much more and not gotten Heisman hype because of it. I agree that anyone who admits it should have their vote taken away. ETA: not to mention his numbers weren't even impressive. He shouldn't have even been invited to NYC.
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LSUJuice  LSU Fan Back in Houston Member since Apr 2004 10211 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:43 am to TenTex)
He's Clay Travis, not Dick Schapp (sp). He does a radio show for entertainment. Yes, that IS your fail for expecting factual reporting.
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SouljaBreauxTellEm  LSU Fan Mizz Member since Aug 2009 20598 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:45 am to TenTex)
Exactly why I was for Manziel all along. The off the field stuff should not factor in this award. Imagine this story had he won the heisman.
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TenTex  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2008 13971 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:48 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm)
Yes, I'm guessing the Heisman Club is breathing a sigh of relief! It would have been a well deserved nightmare for them! 
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pvilleguru  Alabama Fan Member since Jun 2009 4587 posts

| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:49 am to TenTex)
People still care about the Heisman?
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TiGeRTeRRoR  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2003 18880 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:50 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm)
After Charles Woodson over Peyton and Jason White over Larry Fitzgerald, the award really has become way less prestigious.
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Rickety Cricket  Navy Fan Premium Member Member since Aug 2007 25853 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:50 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm)
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Imagine this story had he won the heisman
I wish he would have, then the voters would have to live with their stupid decision.
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Choupique19  LSU Fan The cheap seats Member since Sep 2005 21443 posts
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| re: Sports Writer David Climer admits not Voting for best Athlete for Heisman (Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:52 am to Rickety Cricket)
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not to mention his numbers weren't even impressive
7 interceptions, man. 7 interceptions. Let's totally ignore that 5 of those were either tipped by teammates or the opponents batted the ball in the air on their own.
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