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Rohan2Reed
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man some of you people on this board are really caught up in this us vs. them mentality.





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re: What is "progressive" about weapons/magazine/ammo bans...can anyone tell me?


Why my sister in law is a former proud liberal that insists on being called a progressive now.





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because having a progressive society is a very good thing.



Well I guess that all depends on what you're progressing towards, would it not Rohan2Reed??







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Is calling me out by typing out my full username an attempt at levity?





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Sure. Futile attempts at levity are all I've got in response to statements such as yours. It was without a doubt one of the most ignorant statements I have seen here, because I feel you made it with conviction. It's frightening really.





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It was without a doubt one of the most ignorant statements I have seen here, because I feel you made it with conviction.


You should read this board more.






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Why my sister in law is a former proud liberal that insists on being called a progressive now.


The word progressive was pretty much dead in political contexts until a decade or so ago. Liberal had pretty much become a dirty word. Classical liberalism was closest to libertarianism than anything until socialist destroyed the term.






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forward-thinking


what is forward thinking about banning weapons/magazine/ammo?






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What is "progressive" about weapons/magazine/ammo bans...can anyone tell me?

well in their eyes we are post-self defense, and only a barbarian, knuckle dragger, or trouble maker would want to own a gun

it's a very urban and segregationist ideology, like many progressive beliefs






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Turning innocent adjectives into proper nouns used to classify a group of individuals is counterproductive to the entire idea of having a free-thinking, enlightened population.

groups self-labeing themselves is what they do. it's both for self-identification and for other groups to identify them

the term "progressive" was first adopted by progressive/liberals. "liberal" was a bad term in 2004 when Kerry was running and it was molded into other terms, and "progressive" won. don't shoot somebody else for using their self-appointed term






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But categorization is an easy way for humans to choose sides, define good vs. evil or right vs. wrong, identify themselves, "win" arguments quickly, take stands without having to think too hard about an issue, and so on and so forth..


That is not something limited to humans, nor is it a switch that can be universally turned off.

Animals gonna be animals. Darwin's gonna fist pump.






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man some of you people on this board are really caught up in this us vs. them mentality.

it goes both ways

you think the people who are voting on banning guns or certain magazines aren't thinking in an us/them mentality?

obviously they are to single out this group






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what is forward thinking about banning weapons/magazine/ammo?

when you believe that you live in a social grouping that doesn't require self defense or hunting, why do you need guns?






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when you believe that you live in a social grouping that doesn't require self defense or hunting, why do you need guns?


But that's actually the concept from the Monarchy period in Europe. Not a "forward-thinking" concept at all






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But that's actually the concept from the Monarchy period in Europe. Not a "forward-thinking" concept at all

well belief systems can be cyclical

and progressivism follows monarchal rule in a way. SOMEBODY has to come up with the "progressive" ideas, and then they're adopted by the mass who willingly submits to the societal/governmental pressures of those beliefs deemed suitable enough for elite thinking

it's the same with conservatives who base things in religion...but at least religion has a text to reference. hence why its adherence to the rules is seen as conservatives and non-moving.

when you have the ability to introduce new controls/laws, and spin it as a progression in mentality, you can push any ideal






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when you believe that you live in a social grouping that doesn't require self defense or hunting, why do you need guns?
so many people are shocked when they find out I have a gun.

and they wonder why I need one.







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SOMEBODY has to come up with the "progressive" ideas, and then they're adopted by the mass who willingly submits to the societal/governmental pressures of those beliefs deemed suitable enough for elite thinking




yeah, they're sheep.



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with conservatives who base things in religion..


more sheep.







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i was a progressive sheep, namely b/c i thought it was what elite thinkers were supposed to do combined with my distaste for organized religion and the mass movements in insanity they can cause

then i realized i was marching to the beat of some elite's drum and not really my own analysis of issues

this group identification isn't just conservatives/libertarians/whatever pointing out progressives. THEY created the distinction/verbiage to separate themselves. this gun debate has brought out a lot of that elitism

"knuckle dragger" has been a popular term recently to describe gun owners






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Why he hold hand like that?







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CptBengal
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THEY created the distinction/verbiage to separate themselves. this gun debate has brought out a lot of that elitism


exactly, I just find it hypocritical how many of them claim to be intelligent and enlightened, yet willingly submit in choice of label and beliefs to the whims of an "elite".

quite entertaining too






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