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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:41 am to Wooly)
Just sneak it in on board your boat like I did. Here you go to see how I did it....
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GaryMyMan 
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:48 am to Wooly)
Getting anything into the country is easy. Registering it is next to impossible. What VIN do you give the DMV for a license? VIN numbers tell the DMV exactly what the vehicle is.
What some people have done for D90's and D110's is to take a VIN plate off of an old model from the 90's or earlier and put it on a new one - if you get caught doing that, you're in some big trouble.
There are several companies in the US that specialize in turning old Defenders into new ones - it's legal to import the new parts. But then you're back in $100 grand territory.
Bill Gates wanted to drive his Porsche 959 on the road in the early 90's, but couldn't because it wasn't street legal in the US. He's a pretty rich guy so he had a law passed called the "Show and Display" law that allows a car to be driven a limited number of miles per year. People import Zondas and other forbidden exotics using this law today, but it's so expensive that normal people don't do it for things like Defenders.
The "good" news is that it's legal to import a vehicle as long as it's 17 years old. So wait a few years, save your pennies and get an early 2000's D90 or 110.
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ThaKaptin 
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:02 am to polarbehr)
That article on them seizing the skylines literally makes me sick to my stomach. The fact that they would go out and confiscate someones car that they probably have over 50 grand invested in (pretty easy to do in the case of a skyline) for the sole reason that they dont meet crash standards is sickening. Who gives a shite if the car doesnt meet safety standards. Im fairly sure that the people importing the car are aware of this and arent going to try to sue Nissan if they get hurt because of it since its not an American sold vehicle.
This fricking over bearing government we have allowed to come into existence is ridiculous.
People say that they will never go house to house to confiscate registered guns? This is proof that they can and will if the correct law is passed.
ETA: Spinoff thread incoming
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polarbehr
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:05 am to ThaKaptin)
first time i cried reading an article about cars 
it really is sad what they did to godzirra in this country
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:07 am to Wooly)
Do you know me? 
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Hammertime
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:09 am to ThaKaptin)
Like I said earlier, many people have D90s and they are street legal. Look on ebay or cars.com and you can see it for yourself. They just have to pass US guidelines(emissions, etc). For those of you that say it can't be done, look it up for yourself. It has and continues to be done
They can be had for $20k-50k
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GaryMyMan
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:24 am to Hammertime)
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Like I said earlier, many people have D90s and they are street legal. Look on ebay or cars.com and you can see it for yourself. They just have to pass US guidelines(emissions, etc). For those of you that say it can't be done, look it up for yourself. It has and continues to be done
Yeah, those were imported before 1997, through Land Rover USA. They sold them at dealerships here. Then they stopped importing them because Land Rover wouldn't put airbags in them or make them comply with other evolving US safety & emissions standards. Meanwhile, they are still sold overseas and have modern improvements and people still want them here so there is a market for these illegal cars. There is no way in HELL a Defender would pass any US importation tests, and there is no way one can be converted to US standards (crumple zones, airbags, and a thousand other little things). That's what the OP is talking about - getting a NEW Defender, not one of those old legal ones.
The reason a fricking 15 year old D90 costs $40 grand here is because they aren't sending any more over. That's more than a new one goes for in Britain.
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JOHNN
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:37 am to Wooly)
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would.it be almost impossible to register it?
Youd have to register the vehicle as a kit car and have it insured under a "stated value" policy. When you have the vehicle registered under a stated value you would get a check for that amount versus an amount the vehicle is presently valued at. My dad has a vette that had work done by Lingenfelter and has a policy valued at 75k. He did that amount so if the car was totalled, he could get the majority of his money back and get a new car. My brother and I both have similar policies on our mustangs and tthey arent very much more than a regular policy.
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:38 am to GaryMyMan)
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Bill Gates wanted to drive his Porsche 959 on the road in the early 90's, but couldn't because it wasn't street legal in the US. He's a pretty rich guy so he had a law passed called the "Show and Display" law that allows a car to be driven a limited number of miles per year. People import Zondas and other forbidden exotics using this law today, but it's so expensive that normal people don't do it for things like Defenders.
IIRC GMM, the car sat in customs for years before being cleared under show and display.
ETA 13 years after a quick google/wiki search.
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Siderophore
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:54 am to ThaKaptin)
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Im fairly sure that the people importing the car are aware of this and arent going to try to sue Nissan if they get hurt because of it since its not an American sold vehicle.
A man in the US removes a sophisticated safety system on a table saw that would stop the blade the second it touched flesh. Would limit injury to something worthy of a band aid.
He cuts his thumb off.
Sues the company on the grounds that it was capable their fault because they designed the system in a way that it was capable for him to remove it.
Jury awards him multimillion dollars in damages.
You were saying?
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Wooly 
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 2:15 pm to Siderophore)
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Applications under the "Show and Display" rule are reviewed and managed by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which allows the vehicles to be registered for limited use on public roads (2,500 miles annually).[2]
do you have to pay for the application? because its not hard toi stay under 2500 a year
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Croacka
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 2:20 pm to Siderophore)
Millions for a thumb?
Where the frick do I sign up?
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Hazelnut 
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 2:22 pm to brewhan davey)
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Took the restrictor plate off?
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Wooly
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 2:45 pm to Hazelnut)
keep it on the dl
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 2:51 pm to JOHNN)
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Youd have to register the vehicle as a kit car and have it insured under a "stated value"
Already covered earlier that this is illegal. Import a car in parts, reassemble, register as a kit car is illegal.
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Wooly
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 3:11 pm to fightin tigers)
so basically the only way to drive a 2012 in the states and not run a 99% chance of having it seized by the govt is to drop $130,000 to have the car redone to american standards?....... that sucks
cant register it in mexico and drive it across the border and just keep it here?
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fightin tigers
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 3:39 pm to Wooly)
From the way I understand it, you would have to buy one 25 years old and then upgrade it to the modern 2012 version. Don't think it is actually possible to alter the 2012 in a way that makes it legal.
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fightin tigers
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 3:40 pm to Wooly)
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cant register it in mexico and drive it across the border and just keep it here?
This is what the guy did with the Focus RS, involves visas and shite. Probably can't remain in the states for an unlimited time though.
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Hammertime
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 3:42 pm to fightin tigers)
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From the way I understand it, you would have to buy one 25 years old and then upgrade it to the modern 2012 version
1997 and I believe it only has to meet 1997 standards
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polarbehr
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| re: is it really that hard to ship in a car that is not street legal.in the us? (Posted on 1/17/13 at 3:48 pm to Wooly)
well you could buy 4 or 5 send them to the dot let them do all the crash testing to get it certified and then you are good to go
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