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C 
LSU Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:02 am to VOR)
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Not necessarily.
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VOR 
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
33031 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:04 am to C)
Under extreme circumstances it may be justified, imo. I don't subscribe to the belief that it's totally ineffective.
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CherryGarciaMan
Shakedown Street
Member since Aug 2012
244 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:04 am to GumboPot)
Ya'll do know he has done this, correct?
Without due process.
And, this one was a 16 yr old kid.
LINK
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C
LSU Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
17398 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:10 am to VOR)
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Under extreme circumstances it may be justified, imo.
So do you think Bush was justified in his selective application, published legal guidance, congressional review, and drafted field manuals to users or is it better for a president to kill citizens without exteranl review?
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Lsut81
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2005
54822 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:15 am to GumboPot)
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secret legal opinions that contain the executive branch's understanding of the President's authority to kill American citizens
Sweet... Glad to know he can take us out if he so chooses 
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double d 
Texas A&M Fan
H'ville Home of the Tigers
Member since Jun 2004
3743 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:17 am to LSURussian)
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If my screen name shows up on the kill list, please let me know. Thanks.
My super secret sources say you're OK, they have you down for nothing more than waterboarding. 
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SM6 
Navy Fan
The five sided fist-a-gon.
Member since Jul 2008
5495 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:32 am to C)
Has any President released this? I'm curious when this actually became a 'thing' I'd imagine back in the good ol days Teddy Roosevelt would say 'Get rid of this clown' and then some thug would go and do the deed.
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C
LSU Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
17398 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:36 am to SM6)
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some thug would go and do the deed
Not saying that hasn't happened, but this was publically acknowledged hit; not some back-alley fake mugging.
ETA: So obama is basically flaunting the law with no recourse.
This post was edited on 1/17 at 8:37 am
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Dark Tiger
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2006
3873 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:38 am to GumboPot)
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Obama's kill list
Hell, everyone I know has their own "kill list"...I add to mine all the time
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VOR
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
33031 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:42 am to C)
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So do you think Bush was justified in his selective application, published legal guidance, congressional review, and drafted field manuals to users or is it better for a president to kill citizens without exteranl review?
You do realize, of course, that there is implicit editorializing in your question. So to answer . . . beats me. 
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SlowFlowPro 
Stanford Fan
Equality is a circle, not a =
Member since Jan 2004
263359 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:46 am to VOR)
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This post is not directed to anyone in particular. But if you guys think this board's responses would be exactly the same under W you're being silly.
there is a slight difference
the GOP is the party of "big defense," so it is to be expected from a GOP/Hawk
the DEMs campaigned as "not Bush" and a big part of that was based on Bush's decisions relating to war. also, remember the "most transparent administration ever" claims made in response to Bush's admin? well, they're not exactly living up to that
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Poodlebrain
LSU Fan
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
12666 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 8:49 am to Dark Tiger)
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Hell, everyone I know has their own "kill list"...I add to mine all the time
You don't know me because I do not have a kill list. Maybe I'm unusual in that I've never been offended enough by the words, or acts, of another person to desire them dead. The factthat you have a personal list is somewhat troubling. At least Obama has the excuse of the kill list being that of the United States and not his personal one.
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BugAC
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
13816 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:00 am to VOR)
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If they're actually killing bad guys I'm not too upset. I am aware of the danger of the government assuming such power, however.
Simple question, are you against Obama having a "kill list"?
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Aubie Spr96 
Auburn Fan
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
10106 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:32 am to GumboPot)
Thanks for posting this. I think I'll send this guy an email alone with my senator.
It is absolutely inexcusable that ANY sitting POTUS have this type of unmitigated power. Between the Patriot Act, NDAA, and this, we are truly on our way to despotism and total erosion of our civil liberties.
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Strannix
Navy Fan
Member since Dec 2012
254 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:59 am to jamboybarry)
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Insert "most transparent administration ever" here
Rex, "squeaky clean" 
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CITWTT
LSU Fan
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
25143 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:18 am to VOR)
Your "reasonable" hackery knows absolutely no bounds.
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Dark Tiger
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2006
3873 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/18/13 at 5:57 am to Poodlebrain)
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You don't know me because I do not have a kill list. Maybe I'm unusual in that I've never been offended enough by the words, or acts, of another person to desire them dead. The factthat you have a personal list is somewhat troubling.
and the list just grew by one....
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CajunAngele
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
4965 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/18/13 at 6:41 am to GumboPot)
George Bush was despised as badly by the liberals as I despise Obama. Bush was cited for the patriot act and unnecessary for oil, evil wars and for being stupid and stuttering..
Obama continues to carry on the patriot act and unnecessary for oil, evil wars.Obama stutters worse is far more 'stupid' (Bush knows what a 'corpsemen' is,sorry liberals you lose, Obama is not brilliant) Yet... it is somehow okay for Obama to mirror Bush and be truly stupid? Go figure.
The reason this 'kill list' won't ever be released is quite simple. On this kill list are some 'American citizens' that are 'terrorists'. i e....Infiltrated terrorists.
(The overall theory of not being pissed off about the patriot act; is if you are not doing anything wrong don't worry but you give up these liberties rather than be attacked by terrorists on your own soil like the Fort Hood shooter. But this was not applied to Bush by the liberals. But it is okay for Obama?)
Under Obama we are not allowed to call them terrorists, only overseas contingency operations. Fort Hood was proof of terrorist infiltration but Obama made it a 'workplace violence' scene.One of Obama's first acts as president; was a memo directive, playing lawyer for a terrorist.
So the truth is. The only reason we are not attacked daily by terrorists that despise us is, because our CIA is monitoring the literal craps they take in their toilets daily via the patriot act. If Obama canned the patriot act we would be attacked and his approval ratings would be beyond impeachable. Obama is a terrorist sympathizer and aids and abets and provides comfort and taxpayer billions to terrorists.
No matter how the MSM tried to BS everyone...The muslim brotherhood are not good people. The above map is dated, just imagine how much more they have infiltrated and changed names like ACORN.
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CajunAngele
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
4965 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/19/13 at 9:00 am to LSURussian)
I am sure russian is not on the list as Obama said wait until after his election and he will take down all missile shields and join hands with Russia.
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cwill
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Jan 2005
18847 posts
| re: Senator Wyden (D) request authority for Obama's kill list. (Posted on 1/19/13 at 9:03 am to GumboPot)
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"authority to kill American citizens"?
Are you unaware that 2 have already been assassinated in this fashion? Of course you are.
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