| Posted by | Message |
Mike da Tigah
Ft. New Richmond
Member since Feb 2005
37217 posts
 Online
| Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 6:09 am)
NY Safe Act
quote:
ALBANY, N.Y. – Days after calling for an overhaul of gun control in New York following the Connecticut school shooting, Gov. Andrew Cuomo worked out a tough proposal on gun control with legislative leaders who promised to pass the most restrictive gun law in the nation. The measure passed the Senate 43-18 on the strength of support from Democrats, many of whom previously sponsored the bills that were once blocked by Republicans. The Democrat-led Assembly gaveled out before midnight and planned to take the issue up at 10 a.m. Tuesday. It is expected to pass easily.
quote:
"This is a scourge on society," Cuomo said Monday night, one month after the Newtown, Conn., shooting that took the lives of 20 first graders and six educators. "At what point do you say, `No more innocent loss of life."'
HEADLINE.... An assault weapons ban and registry now equates to "No More Loss of innocent lives".
 unfreakingbelievablestupidity....
quote:
"All in all, it is a comprehensive, balanced approach that will save lives," Klein said in an interview.
O'rly... Do tell.
quote:
"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president," said Ball who represents part of the Hudson Valley. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."
quote:
Under current state law, assault weapons are defined by having two "military rifle" features spelled out in the law. The proposal would reduce that to one feature and include the popular pistol grip.
This just in... Pistol grips on assault rifles are what take innocent lives.
Got it 
quote:
Ammunition magazines would be restricted to seven bullets, from the current 10, and current owners of higher-capacity magazines would have a year to sell them out of state. An owner caught at home with eight or more bullets in a magazine could face a misdemeanor charge,
well, so much for pretty much every automatic handgun except maybe an easily concealed 380 backup.
There is just far too much material in this to dissect. I'll leave some for the rest of you. Have fun. Good times. 
|
| Back to top | Share on  |
4LSU2 
LSU Fan
Madisonville
Member since Dec 2009
14744 posts
Online
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 6:21 am to Mike da Tigah)
You pretty much covered my thoughts on this topic.
|
| Back to top | |
TigerFanatic99
LSU Fan
Elkhart, IN
Member since Jan 2007
1295 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 6:58 am to 4LSU2)
a 7 round magazine/clip.
wow. I mean wow, thats really stretching it.
|
| Back to top | |
Mike da Tigah
Ft. New Richmond
Member since Feb 2005
37217 posts
Online
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:01 am to TigerFanatic99)
quote:
a 7 round magazine/clip.
wow. I mean wow, thats really stretching it.
From what I gather, it's not the first 7 rounds that take innocent life, but the last 3 or more.
But, but, but, but, if you have a pistol grip, all bets are off.
This post was edited on 1/15 at 7:04 am
|
| Back to top | |
wickowick
LSU Fan
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
13409 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:04 am to TigerFanatic99)
quote:
a 7 round magazine/clip.
They had 10 round before, that is being reduced to 7. They have 1 year to get ride of larger magazines before they become a felon. This is the reason for no new restrictions, they always want a bit more...
|
| Back to top | |
Mike da Tigah
Ft. New Richmond
Member since Feb 2005
37217 posts
Online
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:14 am to wickowick)
On the upside, all of you who've been looking to get your hands on some guns and magazines that are currently nowhere to be found in the stores, help is on the way.
|
| Back to top | |
TrueTiger
LSU Fan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2004
3164 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:18 am to Mike da Tigah)
If they can't have 8+ round mags, I guess they will have to convert to belt feed. No mags, your belt can be 5 rounds to 250, they are custom made by you.
Belt conversions
|
| Back to top | |
wickowick
LSU Fan
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
13409 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:20 am to TrueTiger)
quote:
If they can't have 8+ round mags
Apparently the bill does not say anything about detachable magazines. Even guns with an internal magazine are a no go...
|
| Back to top | |
Mike da Tigah
Ft. New Richmond
Member since Feb 2005
37217 posts
Online
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:29 am to wickowick)
quote:
Apparently the bill does not say anything about detachable magazines. Even guns with an internal magazine are a no go...
Which, correct me if I'm wrong, would include an M1 Garand, SKS, and other collectible automatics with or W/O a fixed or detachable magazine. Perhaps even bolt actions with fixed mags that exceed 7 rounds as well?
This post was edited on 1/15 at 7:32 am
|
| Back to top | |
Tim
LSU Fan
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
5388 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:32 am to Mike da Tigah)
I have an 8 shot .357 revolver. Would that be illegal?
Stupid bastards up North!
|
| Back to top | |
wickowick
LSU Fan
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
13409 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:34 am to Mike da Tigah)
Looks like it but the bill is still being sorted through...
|
| Back to top | |
Tim
LSU Fan
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
5388 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:37 am to wickowick)
Notice the hypocrisy? If these guns and magazines are so evil, why would they say they must be sold out of State? Why not destroy them? So, you sell them to some guy in North Carolina, he drives over to NY and starts popping people with his 30 rd mag. It's so stupid. It has nothing to do with safety, it's all about control and a power grab.
|
| Back to top | |
ShoeBang 
LA-Lafayette Fan
Member since May 2012
2294 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:41 am to Tim)
That oughtta stop those naughty criminals.
|
| Back to top | |
Mike da Tigah
Ft. New Richmond
Member since Feb 2005
37217 posts
Online
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:42 am to Tim)
quote:
Notice the hypocrisy? If these guns and magazines are so evil, why would they say they must be sold out of State? Why not destroy them?
Kind of reminiscent of abolishing slaves in the North huh?
|
| Back to top | |
jamboybarry
LSU Fan
Rill talk
Member since Feb 2011
8418 posts
Online
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:44 am to ShoeBang)
quote:
That oughtta stop those naughty criminals.
This + gun free zones=Utopia!
|
| Back to top | |
wickowick
LSU Fan
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
13409 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:49 am to jamboybarry)
Wording from some of the bill:
quote:
S 41-b. Subdivision 8 of section 265.02 of the penal law, as amended
15 by chapter 764 of the laws of 2005, is amended and two new subdivisions
16 9 and 10 are added to read as follows:
17 (8) Such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device.
18 FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SUBDIVISION, A LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING
19 DEVICE SHALL NOT INCLUDE AN AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICE LAWFULLY POSSESSED
20 BY SUCH PERSON BEFORE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF
21 TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH AMENDED THIS SUBDIVISION, THAT HAS A CAPACI-
22 TY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO ACCEPT MORE THAN
23 SEVEN BUT LESS THAN ELEVEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION, OR THAT WAS MANUFAC-
24 TURED BEFORE SEPTEMBER THIRTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR, THAT
25 HAS A CAPACITY OF, OR THAT CAN BE READILY RESTORED OR CONVERTED TO
26 ACCEPT, MORE THAN TEN ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION;
|
| Back to top | |
Crawdaddy
LSU Fan
Slidell
Member since Sep 2006
9763 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:50 am to Mike da Tigah)
They went from high cap (30-40 etc) to 10. Now they are going to 7. Next it will be 2 or 3 ie shotgun. Then maybe only one single shot. Then, well there is only one place to go after that.
Slowly, little by little. Takes time but before we know it our grandchildren will have a hard time to own a firearm
|
| Back to top | |
TrueTiger
LSU Fan
Republic of West Florida
Member since Sep 2004
3164 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 7:59 am to jamboybarry)
quote:
That oughtta stop those naughty criminals.
This + gun free zones=Utopia!
Yeah a Utopia just like every police state that ever existed. The good people who choose to exercise their rights will have to do it in constant fear of being found out by their neighbors who may want to turn them in.
They will have to hide the guns and equipment and keep secret. They might even have to hide the fact they have them from their own children. I can see teachers telling the kids, "If daddy or mommy has a gun that looks like [picture,] be sure and tell your teacher".
|
| Back to top | |
ShoeBang
LA-Lafayette Fan
Member since May 2012
2294 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:10 am to TrueTiger)
We are starting to see the things that communists and dictators use to gain power.
Collapsing economy.
Charismatic leader.
Heavy regulations on gun rights.
Government agencies getting bigger and more powerful.
Fear of the future among the people.
All that is needed now is the big, earth shaking event for all the scared people to look for a leader. Once that happens (like a complete economic collapse) , someone will rise for the people to rally behind. They will sacrifice their rights for a little stability.
edit: 1K posts 
This post was edited on 1/15 at 8:14 am
|
| Back to top | |
JohnnyKilroy 
North Carolina Fan
Member since Oct 2012
5589 posts
| re: Bill called "Toughest gun control package in the nation" passed by NY Senate (Posted on 1/15/13 at 8:21 am to ShoeBang)
quote:
edit: 1K posts
Step your game up.
jk
|
| Back to top | |
