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Draconian Sanctions  LSU Fan San Francisco 49ers Fan Member since Oct 2008 28362 posts
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| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:00 pm to weagle99)
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But one with a sympathetic media and members of Congress
Do you really believe that we're close to the government outlawing guns and going door to door to collect them? Or some other measure that would achieve the same thing? I mean really? It blows my mind that some of you really believe this stuff.
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12858 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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The main discussion is about high powered automatic weapons
Want to know how I know, that you don't know, what the frick you are talking about?
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Draconian Sanctions  LSU Fan San Francisco 49ers Fan Member since Oct 2008 28362 posts
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| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:03 pm to wickowick)
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Want to know how I know, that you don't know, what the frick you are talking about?
Sorry, I haven't been following Fox News' version 
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TailgateTiger  LSU Fan Flint, Texas Member since Oct 2008 440 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:03 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Like i said, completely delusional.
Just noticed you live in Austin ...figures, your not the guy the dresses up like a lady and runs for Mayor every year? Ya, keep on saying "delusional" ingo 
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weagle99 Ridin' on the Gus Bus Member since Nov 2011 4175 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Do you really believe that we're close to the government outlawing guns and going door to door to collect them? Or some other measure that would achieve the same thing? I mean really? It blows my mind that some of you really believe this stuff.
I don't believe we are close at the moment, to door to door confiscation. However most gun rights enthusiasts are taking the long view and using observations of what happened to gun owners in UK and Australia to form their opinions. It is the creeping approach that people are guarding against, and with good reason IMO based on history. What you should remember is that many gun enthusiasts hold the ability to own guns as sacred, and have always known that there are elements in society who want to eliminate that ownership. Think of something that you hold dear, and now imagine that during your entire life some people in this country wanted to take that thing away from you. Would you agree to small steps the curtail that something knowing that it could eventually be used to take it away from you?
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TailgateTiger  LSU Fan Flint, Texas Member since Oct 2008 440 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Sorry, I haven't been following Fox News' version
dont lie fricktard, you get all your news from Fox! 
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goatmilker  New Orleans Saints Fan Proudville USA Member since Feb 2009 9365 posts
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| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
They will nibble at the edges via clip size and what they think is a military gun. Victory will be declared and that will be that. Meanwhile the cause of S Hook will be stepped over for the grand victory parade of the Democrats. Wonderful
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12858 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:07 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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Sorry, I haven't been following Fox News' version
You are ignorant on the subject, go do your reaserch and learn something...
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Draconian Sanctions  LSU Fan San Francisco 49ers Fan Member since Oct 2008 28362 posts
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| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:08 pm to weagle99)
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I don't believe we are close at the moment, no. However most gun rights enthusiasts are taking the long view and using observations of what happened to gun owners in UK and Australia to form their opinions. It is the creeping approach that people are guarding against, and with good reason IMO based on history. What you should remember that many gun enthusiasts hold the ability to own guns as sacred, and have always known that there are elements in society who want to eliminate that ownership. Think of something that you hold dear, and now imagine that your entire life that people in this country wanted to take that away from you. Would you agree to small steps the curtail that something knowing that it could eventually be used to take it away from you?
That's all fine and good I guess but you really make it difficult to take you seriously and to have a real and open discussion about the issue when so many of you go to this immediately. I mean i don't even disagree with some of the points y'all make but damn it's tough to side with someone who comes off like a lunatic you know?
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HailHailtoMichigan!  Michigan Fan Mission Viejo, CA Member since Mar 2012 5176 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
It sets a precedent. The British banned all guns, and now there is a huge campaign there to ban knives......knives. You must understand that all it takes is a snowball to cause an avalanche.
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Turbeauxdog  LSU Fan Member since Aug 2004 4708 posts
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| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
What about "this" is lunacy?
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weagle99 Ridin' on the Gus Bus Member since Nov 2011 4175 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
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That's all fine and good I guess but you really make it difficult to take you seriously and to have a real and open discussion about the issue when so many of you go to this immediately. I mean i don't even disagree with some of the points y'all make but damn it's tough to side with someone who comes off like a lunatic you know?
I haven't seen any lunatics on here, but I don't follow all threads. I assume you aren't talking about me specifically. The NRA met with Biden last week. My understanding is that school safety was not even discussed at the meeting. What side doesn't want to have an open discussion? Have you heard anyone from the administration mention anything other than implementing gun control measures, almost all of which would have done nothing to prevent the crime at Sandy Hook? Has Biden ever mentioned armed guards at schools or something similar as a solution?
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12858 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Are you still clueless or have you learned that there has been ZERO talk about banning automatic machine guns...
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beaverfever  Arkansas Fan Little Rock Member since Jan 2008 4894 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
I am completely positive that there is a contingent of radical liberals (including Obama) that would love nothing more.
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Edearl Watson  Florida Fan Sopchoppy, Fla. Member since May 2012 1194 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
It's difficult to know these peoples true intentions. But when they say things like this....What do you think? Eric Holder: Gun Owners Should 'Cower' in Shame Like Smokers Read more: LINK
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12858 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:16 pm to beaverfever)
Feinstein has admitted that she wants to ban and collect guns...
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los angeles tiger  LSU Fan 1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium Member since Oct 2003 54303 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:17 pm to Turbeauxdog)
He needs to only be worried about himself having a gun and what he decides to watch. Of course, he wants the government more involved in our lives to dictate how we should live, wants the government to limit the rights we have because he doesn't like those rights. I think anyone that calls for such should be put in jail for using the first amendment right calling for my second amendment right controlled to be controlled by the government. How can anyone believe that they should have a first amendment right unencumbered when calling for limiting the second amendment right that is most important to guarantee the first amendment rights is beyond me but he's a sheep that ignores history, which repeats itself.
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LSU alum wannabe  LSU Fan Katy, TX Member since Jan 2004 10411 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:21 pm to los angeles tiger)
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So laws are only for me, the citizen, not the elitist rulers that have now come to be in our nation. Is that what you are telling me?
And you are telling me that you don't see how they can be at greater risk given their job? Has nothing to do with elitism. Should you have classified counter assault/terrorist measures on your vehicle? On your plane? Are you the same guy that freaks out every time Obama takes Air Force One someplace?
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los angeles tiger  LSU Fan 1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium Member since Oct 2003 54303 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:26 pm to LSU alum wannabe)
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And you are telling me that you don't see how they can be at greater risk given their job?
Why should I care about their lives more than my own? We are supposed to be "equal" are we not?
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12858 posts

| re: Do some of you really think that the left wants to take all your guns away? (Posted on 1/12/13 at 6:35 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Come back and tell me about these automatic weapons...
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