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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12852 posts
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| Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 12:50 pm)
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal appeals court says a Maryland veteran can’t own a gun because of a misdemeanor assault conviction more than four decades ago. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia on Friday turned away an appeal from 68-year-old Navy veteran Jefferson Wayne Schrader, who sued after failing a 2008 background check. Schrader was convicted of misdemeanor assault and battery and fined $100 after a fistfight in Annapolis, Md., in 1968. Federal law says gun owners cannot have a state misdemeanor conviction with a possible sentence of more than two years. In 1968, Maryland did not have a maximum prison penalty for misdemeanor assault. The appeals court agreed Schrader could have been given more than two years in prison, and so he is ineligible to own a gun.
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lsu13lsu  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2008 1134 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 12:54 pm to wickowick)
Wow. "The government is not going to take your guns." "We just want guns out of the wrong people's hands." "We just want to do stricter background checks."
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los angeles tiger  LSU Fan 1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium Member since Oct 2003 54265 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 12:56 pm to lsu13lsu)
How the hell is it that the government must know this when it is a guaranteed right found in the Bill of Rights? It is fricking bull shite nonsense.
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Kcrad  LSU Fan Bucolic Slidell Member since Nov 2010 5774 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 12:57 pm to lsu13lsu)
Are these rules additive? Someone with two convictions, would they add both sentences together???
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12852 posts
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| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 12:58 pm to los angeles tiger)
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It is fricking bull shite nonsense.
I mean the guy has a history right, look at the pattern, once in 68 years...
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Meauxjeaux  Memphis Fan I have 91k posts with all my alters Member since Jun 2005 13020 posts
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| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:10 pm to wickowick)
The screws are tightening. In the cc classes I'm in right now we just finished discussion of the crossover of guns and medicine. If you have ever been prescribed an anti depressent prepare to have your license app subjected to extra scrutiny today. Tomorrow prepare to have it denied.
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ForeLSU  LSU Fan The Corner of Sanity and Madness Member since Sep 2003 30360 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:18 pm to wickowick)
stupid interpretation of the reg...however I'm failing to understand what him being a Navy Veteran adds to the story
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 12852 posts
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| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:19 pm to ForeLSU)
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however I'm failing to understand what him being a Navy Veteran adds to the story
I agree, it shouldn't matter...
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Tigah in the ATL  LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Feb 2005 20643 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:19 pm to los angeles tiger)
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when it is a guaranteed right found in the Bill of Rights?
rights are not absolute. you should know this.
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los angeles tiger  LSU Fan 1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium Member since Oct 2003 54265 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:20 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
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rights are not absolute. you should know this.
Please stop posting, because rights are not absolute. You have no right to speak anymore.
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Tim  LSU Fan Texas Member since Jan 2005 5322 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:20 pm to ForeLSU)
this is why I disagree with the mental health avenue...mental health diagnosis is very fluid, depending on which MD you are talking to...you think this administration hasn't thought this through...keep believing they have our best interest at heart, freedoms will be lost...forever!
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TheFolker  Kentucky Fan Member since Aug 2011 1917 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:21 pm to Meauxjeaux)
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If you have ever been prescribed an anti depressent prepare to have your license app subjected to extra scrutiny today.
Which will result in fewer people seeking the treatment they need.
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los angeles tiger  LSU Fan 1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium Member since Oct 2003 54265 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 1:29 pm to TheFolker)
This is so stupid because I can go out and buy a gun a street. It's pretty easy to do. Yet government is too busy with this type of of bull shite to someone like this Navy Vet while having a revolving door for criminals that have been arrested multiple times and always have guns.
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CarrolltonTiger  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 44015 posts
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| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 2:04 pm to los angeles tiger)
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In 1968, Maryland did not have a maximum prison penalty for misdemeanor assault.
Doesn't anyone find this even more outrageous?
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SpartyGator  Florida Fan Member since Oct 2011 12906 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 2:04 pm to wickowick)
And from over 40 yrs ago? What a crock of shite..
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Tigah in the ATL  LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Feb 2005 20643 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 2:18 pm to ForeLSU)
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Navy Veteran adds to the story
appeal to emotion
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los angeles tiger  LSU Fan 1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium Member since Oct 2003 54265 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 2:20 pm to CarrolltonTiger)
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Doesn't anyone find this even more outrageous?
It's outrageous but I am not shocked since living in California.
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Teddy Ruxpin  LSU Fan New Orleans, LA Member since Oct 2006 12373 posts
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| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 2:22 pm to Tigah in the ATL)
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appeal to emotion
Ya most likely. However, it is odd, and perhaps another angle, to suggest that as a Navy veteran, our country trusted him with at least weapon training, and therefore, this would appear to be sillier considering he was entrusted with weapons for national defense, but cannot be trusted to protect himself.
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los angeles tiger  LSU Fan 1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium Member since Oct 2003 54265 posts

| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 2:25 pm to Teddy Ruxpin)
Obama admitted to doing lots of drugs and doing such is something that is more than a misdemeanor. How in the hell can such a man be president and make such decisions about war if a Navy Vet isn't allowed to purchase a gun due to a misdemeanor from 1968? Let's not forget that he is pushing for gun control yet has associations and friendships with domestic terrorists that killed other Americans.
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TrueTiger  LSU Fan Republic of West Florida Member since Sep 2004 2592 posts
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| re: Fed Court Denies Navy Veteran From Owning Gun Due To 1968 Misdemeanor (Posted on 1/12/13 at 2:37 pm to wickowick)
There is federal law that provides a procedure for felons to apply to the BATF to have their firearms rights restored. It is Title 18 United States Code section 925(c). BUT there is a catch-22. Congress has defunded the section of the BATF that processes these applications. Since there is no money to do them, they don't do them. Here is a little article where it was explained to a convicted congressman: Judge explains BATF defunding
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