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jimithing11  Texas Fan Dillon, Texas Member since Mar 2011 13438 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:05 am to boosiebadazz)
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keep thinking checkers while the rest of us discuss chess, kid
This ain't the Saints board, breh Looks like it's time to change that pad down low. Anus is leaking too much now.
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boosiebadazz Member since Feb 2008 36680 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:06 am to jimithing11)
go away. the grownups are talking.
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 263343 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:07 am to shel311)
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the part about the NFL hiding it is part of the claims of the players' lawsuits.
but that's only 1994-onward. that makes the slice of players who can make that claim a lot smaller
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The part of the NFL denying it existed, pretty sure there are articles with quotes from the NFL denying it.
the NFL isn't a medical expert. there are still disagreements about the effects today. i saw neuros criticize that study that just made the public rounds a few weeks ago. that's not a real argument against the NFL and the studies aren't hidden. what prevented the NFLPA from looking up studies or players individually from getting independent medical treatment/advice? nothing. hell, the NFLPA is as liable as the NFL
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jimithing11  Texas Fan Dillon, Texas Member since Mar 2011 13438 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:08 am to boosiebadazz)
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the grownups are talking.
-3/10 will read again 
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nofear67  LSU Fan Houston Member since Jan 2006 1086 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:11 am to Flair Chops)
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imo, it's the equivalent of a soldier suing the military because he suffers from ptsd. you know the risks before stepping on the respective fields of battle.
WTF? Tell me you posted this drunk!
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Ric Flair  LSU Fan Charlotte Member since Oct 2005 6349 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro)
Does anyone have links to the articles where the NFL denies that there is a problem with brain injuries? I'd be interested in reading those. Was there a waiver specifically warning players of other injuries they may incur while playing football (cervical spine fractures with paralysis/death, ACL injuries, arm/leg fractures, sports hernias, turf toe, etc.), while specifically omitting head injuries from the list?
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H-Town Tiger  Virginia Tech Fan DIANELANEPANETRANE Member since Nov 2003 41030 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:15 am to slackhouse)
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If the NFL had never lied about this, where would this situation be right now?
What did they lie about? I missed that in the article?
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iliveinabox  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Aug 2011 9162 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:19 am to H-Town Tiger)
breh...flag football here we come 
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Rickety Cricket  Navy Fan Premium Member Member since Aug 2007 25823 posts
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| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro)
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but that's only 1994-onward. that makes the slice of players who can make that claim a lot smaller
I could see the league trying to exclude the latest crop of players on the argument that by the time they came into the league, the danger of head injuries was well publicized.
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TigerBait1127  New Orleans Saints Fan BR Member since Jun 2005 23642 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:26 am to H-Town Tiger)
found this one LINK LINK
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H-Town Tiger  Virginia Tech Fan DIANELANEPANETRANE Member since Nov 2003 41030 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:27 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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Good hopefully the NFL dies off over the next 10 years.
I won't, it will probably never go away. And if you don't like it, don't watch or pay attention to it. What will happen is the lower levels of football will be crippled. Eventually many pee wee type leagues and even some High Schools will have to drop it over insurance costs. Which has all kinds of unintended consequences. such is life of the Land of the Safe and the home of the dependant.
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shel311 Nicholls St. Fan Orlando, Florida Member since Aug 2004 25965 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:30 am to H-Town Tiger)
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What did they lie about? I missed that in the article?
It's either they knew and lied, or they were just completely wrong and are saying the opposite now as they did then. LINK
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NFL commissioner Roger Goodell did not acknowledge a connection between head injuries on the football field and later brain diseases while defending the league's policies on concussions before Congress on Wednesday. That frustrated several members of the House Judiciary Committee, including the committee chairman, Michigan Democrat John Conyers, when Goodell told him the NFL isn't waiting for that debate to play out and is taking steps to make the game safer. "I just asked you a simple question. What is the answer?" persisted Conyers. Goodell replied by saying a medical expert could give a better answer than he could. But some House members complained later that Dr. Ira Casson, chairman of the NFL's committee on concussions, had not testified. Rep. Linda Sanchez, D-Calif., gave Casson some exposure anyway, playing a clip of a TV interview in which he denied evidence of a link between multiple head injuries in NFL players with brain disorders such as dementia and Alzheimer's.
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H-Town Tiger  Virginia Tech Fan DIANELANEPANETRANE Member since Nov 2003 41030 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:30 am to TigerBait1127)
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TigerBait1127
Thanks 
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Ric Flair  LSU Fan Charlotte Member since Oct 2005 6349 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:31 am to H-Town Tiger)
If the NFL were to die off, so would high level college football.
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Rickety Cricket  Navy Fan Premium Member Member since Aug 2007 25823 posts
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| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:33 am to Ric Flair)
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If the NFL were to die off, so would high level college football.
... And the rise of American soccer 
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H-Town Tiger  Virginia Tech Fan DIANELANEPANETRANE Member since Nov 2003 41030 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:33 am to Ric Flair)
It won't die off, has any industry suffered more lawsuits and been found to lie about health risks more than the tobacco indusrty? They are still around.
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 263343 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:34 am to Rickety Cricket)
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And the rise of American soccer
Nope...heading is alleged to cause brain damage
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shel311 Nicholls St. Fan Orlando, Florida Member since Aug 2004 25965 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro)
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the NFL isn't a medical expert.
The NFL's medical expert is a medical expert. 
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SlowFlowPro  Stanford Fan Equality is a circle, not a = Member since Jan 2004 263343 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:36 am to shel311)
did they testify or have they given a public statement?
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shel311 Nicholls St. Fan Orlando, Florida Member since Aug 2004 25965 posts

| re: This is really, really bad for the NFL (Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro)
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did they testify or have they given a public statement?
Check the link above that I posted with quotes. Tigerbait's first link is probably even better. It's an article about the NFL's expert on the subject dismissing the link.
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