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Fratastic423 
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:49 pm to BMoney)
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10 years ago I thought Abita made great beer. The more beer I've had over the years, the more my opinion changes about Abita. Their stuff just doesn't stand up once you realize what else is out there.
While some of that is true, I think some of your dislike of Abita's beers is more because they are as a brewery, boring and they are slow to change. As Amber lagers go, Abita Amber isn't half bad. But no amber lagers are going to appear on that list. Turbodog isn't bad at all and I would say it was a good beer. Once again though, its nothing terribly exciting, just basic.
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Geauxld Finger
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:52 pm to urinetrouble)
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What exactly does it exemplify?
Should rare beers not be rated on their site?
It's not that they shouldn't be rated. But the sample size is by and large small on the grand scale. It dilutes a "rating system" per se.
It's like Bo Jackson. Albeit one of the greatest athletes of all time, will never be in the hall of fame. his sample size is too small to accredit it
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People are naturally going to be homers. But you think people are deliberately over-rating beers for that purpose?
I guess we missed the bus on Abita.
People definitely do this. I recall a few years back a very small west coast brewery released something and it was nothing special yet all the ratings were high, and all were from BA's trying to used it as trade bait. Can't recall the exact beer, it was about 4 years ago.
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It's BA's fault that they make 4 versions of it?
Not at all, I just think it becomes kinda stupid to that point. If one is doing a "Top 100" they shouldn't be admitted imo.
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If that's what people like... then what's the problem?
That's fine. I just think there is too much of it. It's like paying $28 for a 750ml of Brooklyn Black Ops. I can name you about 10 other stouts for 1/2 to 1/3 the price that I would rate higher. I find it to be more of a "it's barrel aged so its special" = better beer kind of issue. It's like everyone is just trying to be really weird instead of just striving for quality beer.
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tetu 
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 1:55 pm to Fratastic423)
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You can stop by anytime you want with that Pelican Brewpub Barley wine I saw in your picture. And we can tackle that one and the Beautification that I have.
But it's barrel aged 
jj. DEAL.
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Rouge 
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:29 pm to Geauxld Finger)
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It's like paying $28 for a 750ml of Brooklyn Black Ops. I can name you about 10 other stouts for 1/2 to 1/3 the price that I would rate higher
i'm listening....
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Geauxld Finger
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:36 pm to Rouge)
Stone RIS
Old Rasputin
Alesmith Speedway Stout
Goose Island BCS
Brooklyn BCS
Terrapin Wake and Bake
Great Divide Yeti
Oskar Blues Ten Fidy
Port Santa's Helper
Abyss
10 off the top of my head that if i had access to i would take over Brooklyn Black Ops. All less cost than BBO.
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Rouge
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:38 pm to Geauxld Finger)
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Goose Island BCS
disagree. too boozy
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Terrapin Wake and Bake
freakin' LOVE this beer
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Oskar Blues Ten Fidy
too imperial to really compare
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Alesmith Speedway Stout
never tired, but heard good things
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LoneStarTiger
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:40 pm to Geauxld Finger)
*coughParabolacough*
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Kim Jong Ir
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:44 pm to Geauxld Finger)
Good lively discussion and disagreement without name calling. This is why I spend most of my time on the F&D Board. 
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Geauxld Finger
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 3:52 pm to LoneStarTiger)
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*coughParabolacough*
haven't had the luxury.
Rouge - those were just ones I liked more imo. But i like your opinions
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LoneStarTiger
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:12 pm to Geauxld Finger)
I have, once, but to be fair I paid more than what they are asking for a Black Ops
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BMoney
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:38 pm to Geauxld Finger)
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It's like paying $28 for a 750ml of Brooklyn Black Ops. I can name you about 10 other stouts for 1/2 to 1/3 the price that I would rate higher. I find it to be more of a "it's barrel aged so its special" = better beer kind of issue. It's like everyone is just trying to be really weird instead of just striving for quality beer.
Brooklyn Black Ops has a 93 rating on Beer Advocate.
Below I'm listing the BA ratings of the list you came up with:
Stone RIS 97
Old Rasputin 96
Alesmith Speedway Stout 98
Goose Island BCS 100
Brooklyn BCS 93
Terrapin Wake and Bake 95
Great Divide Yeti 95
Oskar Blues Ten Fidy 97
Port Santa's Helper 90
Abyss 100
So only 1 in your list is rated below Black Ops. Doesn't this kind of give Beer Advocate some sort of credibility?
I happen to agree that the Port Santa's Little Helper is the weakest of that group. I just had it last month. And I REALLY enjoyed the Barrel aged version better, though it only rates an 86 on BA. I've had it twice, once with several people on this thread and nearly everyone loved it. At least they liked it better than a BA 86. It held its own versus Parabola, which we had immediately afterward.
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Geauxld Finger
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:49 pm to BMoney)
I wasn't really referring to BLack Ops rating, i was just using it as a price point thing. All those ones I listed are rated better and cheaper by and large.
Are they available to all? Probably not sadly.
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tetu
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 4:56 pm to Geauxld Finger)
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I wasn't really referring to BLack Ops rating, i was just using it as a price point thing. All those ones I listed are rated better and cheaper by and large.
But most of them on your list werent barrel aged, making the price go up. Look at the price of barrel aged Old Raspy, which is about the same price of Black Ops (which was $22 in BR btw).
Higher price obviously doesn't always mean better beer though.
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BMoney
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 5:12 pm to tetu)
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Higher price obviously doesn't always mean better beer though.
:cough:Mikkeller:cough:
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BottomlandBrew
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:51 pm to Lester Earl)
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when is the last time you saw it? im bored as frick, might ride out there(im in ole metry)
FYI to Lester or anyone else, they still had 7 Grand Reserves this evening.
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tetu
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:53 pm to BottomlandBrew)
Unbelievable. shite went so fast in laffy & br.
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DEANintheYAY 
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:58 pm to tetu)
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tetu
How many of the top 100 did you give the Tetu treatment to?
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Kim Jong Ir
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 6:59 pm to DEANintheYAY)
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tetu
How many of the top 100 did you give the Tetu treatment to?
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tetu
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 7:18 pm to DEANintheYAY)
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How many of the top 100 did you give the Tetu treatment to?
2 :smh:
Only drain poured rochefort 10. I shared the westy 12 otherwise I would've.
I actually enjoyed the st Bernardus abt 12 the one time I had it (about a year ago)
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Geauxld Finger
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| re: beer advocates top 100 beers of 2012 (Posted on 1/9/13 at 8:06 pm to BMoney)
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Mikkeller
Don't even get me started
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