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What is the Senate's responsibility re: Budgets?


So the Senate has not passed a budget since O came in office.

Is their duty with a budget just a ceremonial one? Is there any legal requirement for them to deal with a budget?







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Darth_Vader
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I would tell you to ask Harry Reed but it's obvious he has no fricking clue what the Senate's responsibility is regarding budgets.





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Is there any legal requirement for them to deal with a budget?


Apparently not being that the House has sent 15 budgets over to them and Harry Reid has not brought one to the floor






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CajunAngele
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ETA: This article was written last year, so add 365 days.

1,000 Days Without a Budget: Facts on the Senate’s Failure

January 20, 2012 at 5:27 pm

Tuesday, January 24, will mark the 1,000th day since the U.S. Senate has passed a budget—an egregious dereliction of duty on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D–NV) watch. By enacting continuing resolution upon continuing resolution (short-term measures to keep the government running, spending money at the current rate), the Senate has taken a pass on leading, all to the detriment of the poor and middle class.

The budget process forces Congress to set priorities to protect the people’s money and put it to its appropriate use. Instead, the Democrat-controlled Senate has abdicated its responsibility. The result? The deficit is soaring, causing a looming tax burden and injecting uncertainty into the economy, leaving jobs and economic growth on the table. It’s no wonder the U.S. economy’s growth is so tepid.

As the 1,000th day nears, here are some facts about America’s budget and why the Senate must take action to be stewards of the people’s money as the Constitution requires:

The last time the Senate passed a budget was on April 29, 2009.

Since that date, the federal government has spent $9.4 trillion, adding $4.1 trillion in debt.

As of January 20, the outstanding public debt stands at $15,240,174,635,409.

Interest payments on the debt are now more than $200 billion per year.

President Obama proposed a FY2012 budget last year, and the Senate voted it down 97–0. (And that budget was no prize—according to the Congressional Budget Office, that proposal never had an annual deficit of less than $748 billion, would double the national debt in 10 years and would see annual interest payments approach $1 trillion per year.)

The Senate rejected House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s (R–WI) budget by 57–40 in May 2011, with no Democrats voting for it.

In FY2011, Washington spent $3.6 trillion. Compare that to the last time the budget was balanced in 2001, when Washington spent $1.8 trillion ($2.1 trillion when you adjust for inflation).
Entitlement spending will more than double by 2050. That includes spending on Medicare, Medicaid and the Obamacare subsidy program, and Social Security. Total spending on federal health care programs will triple.

By 2050, the national debt is set to hit 344 percent of Gross Domestic Product.
Taxes paid per household have risen dramatically, hitting $18,400 in 2010 (compared with $11,295 in 1965). If the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire and more middle-class Americans are required to pay the alternative minimum tax (AMT), taxes will reach unprecedented levels.

Federal spending per household is skyrocketing. Since 1965, spending per household has grown by nearly 162 percent, from $11,431 in 1965 to $29,401 in 2010. From 2010 to 2021, it is projected to rise to $35,773, a 22 percent increase.

Despite all of these blatant red flags, the Senate has utterly failed to execute the most basic, fundamental function of governance at the worst possible time—when the country’s fiscal house is in disarray, the U.S. credit rating is in continual jeopardy, entitlement spending is ballooning, defense spending is on the chopping block, and the economy is in shambles.

One thousand days without a budget is an embarrassing number, but the level of spending, deficits, and taxation that results from the Senate’s failure to exact even a modicum of fiscal discipline is terrifying. Senator Reid has said it would be “foolish” to pass a budget, but failing to pass it is proving to be beyond irresponsible.

The middle class will be left holding the bag, paying for the Senate’s reckless negligence with soaring deficits, higher taxes, and a weak economy as far as the eye can see.

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Meauxjeaux
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So I found this in an article:

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The law requires Congress to pass a budget every year, on the grounds that Americans deserve to know how the government plans to spend the trillions of taxpayer dollars it collects, along with dollars it borrows at the taxpayers' expense. But Majority Leader Harry Reid, who last allowed a budget through the Senate in April 2009, has ignored the law since then.


What law is this and how can it just be ignored?






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Apparently not being that the House has sent 15 budgets over to them and Harry Reid has not brought one to the floor


These were not budgets, these were thinly veiled "frick you"'s to the american people.






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cssamerican
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These were not budgets, these were thinly veiled "frick you"'s to the american people.

Then they should have been brought up for a vote, and let the Senate vote no. This whole idea of not voting on crap because you don't want your party members going on record is one of the MASSIVE problems in DC!






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G Love
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Then they should have been brought up for a vote, and let the Senate vote no.


Why? The Republicans have refused to allow this to happen so many times since the Senate went Democratic. See the use of the filibuster in recent years.






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cssamerican
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I am not defending either party. You are sent there to introduce legislation AND vote on it. Then as a voter I can look at your record to decide if I want to vote for you.





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Why? The Republicans have refused to allow this to happen so many times since the Senate went Democratic.


They did it too!!!! Politics are beyond childish at this point.






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lsu13lsu
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This reminds me of those people who call into Dave Ramsey and tell their stories. You can tell spending just got out of control and they avoided looking at the numbers until it was bankruptcy time. I imagine it will take a Europe situation to get a BALANCED budget passed. The world of hurt is going to be unimaginable in this country. It would hurt now but it would be manageable. The longer we wait the worse off we will be.





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...an egregious dereliction of duty on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D–NV) watch.


:eyeroll:

This is idiotic. I've probably explained this 3 dozen times on this forum.

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Just as they did in March in the House of Representatives, Republicans forced a vote on a bill that was supposed to resemble the president's budget, but wasn't actually the president's budget. A Republican Senator submitted it, and called for the vote.

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This vote, on a Potemkin "Obama Budget," is not intended to be taken seriously. It's a stunt designed to get a slag into the newscycle, and they tend to work. What happens is a Republican legislator presents a "budget proposal" that's designed to be a satirical presentation of an "Obama budget." Democrats don't vote for it, because they recognize that it bears no resemblance to their budgetary preferences. Back in March, it was Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.) who got the Harlequin role in this bit of legislative commedia dell'arte. As Dave Weigel reported at the time, Mulvaney presented the pretend Obama budget with a knowing wink:


And of course, for those who only get their news from Rush Limbaugh, Fox and the like will only hear that "the presient's budget was voted down 99-0" or "the D led Senate refuses to pass a budget"



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CajunAngele
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Why? The Republicans have refused to allow this to happen so many times since the Senate went Democratic. See the use of the filibuster in recent years.



Do you get paid to repeat outright deceptive blatant lies?

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Democrat-Held Senate Rejects Obama's Horrific Budget, 99-0

For the second consecutive year, the Democrat-controlled United States Senate has unanimously rejected President Obama's 2013 budget. The final vote was 99-0, making the the running two-year tally 196-0.

This move follows the House of Representatives' 414-0 rebuke of the same fiscal blueprint earlier this year. Astonishingly, not a single Senate Democrat has voted in favor of any budget for three years, even as they refuse to offer a plan of their own. Democrats have claimed that three fig leaves mitigate this embarrassing spectacle:


(1) "The Senate has already passed a budget!" False. The Senate has not passed a budget. It "deemed" itself a budget as part of a separate piece of legislation over the summer. That law did not address tax policy, entitlement programs, and a slew of other items that a real budget entails. Harry Reid's hand-picked Senate Parliamentarian has confirmed Republicans' contention that the Senate has not fulfilled its basic budgetary obligations. This is the 1,113th day in a row that this has been the case.

(2) "Republican obstructionism!" False. Budgets explicitly cannot be filibustered. If Democrats introduced a budget, whipped their members, and called a vote, it would pass. Simple as that. Republicans couldn't do a thing to stop it. But that would require Democrats to put their long-term plans on paper, which they've been avoiding like the plague for entirely political reasons.

(3) "This vote is a gimmick!" If Democrats want to label an up-or-down vote on a Democratic president's budget a "gimmick," they're welcome to do so. In some ways, it's an appropriate description, given the pitiful gimmicks upon which Obama's budget relies -- even to achieve the fraudulent "savings" it claims. Had it not been defeated by Congress 513-0, Obama's budget would have added $11 Trillion to the gross national debt. It would literally never balance.


The Senate will now move on to vote on four separate Republican-proposed budgets, including the House-passed version. They will all receive more votes than President Obama's brainchild, but none is expected to pass. Stay tuned for updates...

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UPDATE - The Senate has defeated the House-passed Ryan budget, 41-58.Head-to-head tally: Paul Ryan 41 - Barack Obama 0

UPDATE II - The Senate has defeated Senator Pat Toomey's (R-PA) budget resolution, 42-57. This is the seventh consecutive proposed Senate budget that has failed to attract even one Democrat vote.

UPDATE III - The Senate has rejected the two remaining GOP budget alternatives, authored by Senators Lee (17-82) and Paul (16-83). Harry Reid's Senate once again goes oh-fer on budgets, in an age of $16 Trillion debt, a national credit downgrade, and a struggling economy. Disgraceful.






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Explain the thirteen at the minimum jobs bills that have been sitting on his desk after passing the House, if you can kind hack. Exactly who is fricking the country by thier actions.





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Meauxjeaux
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Hey, want, what you haven't explained is why the senate leadership had not passed/presented a budget.

Why are you deflecting?






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CajunAngele
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The liberal posters here have nothing to say when facts are given to them.

As someone said in another thread to a liberal poster, "Knighting for the prick in the WH, how delusional."






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UncleFestersLegs
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"the D led Senate refuses to pass a budget"


So what in that screed explained why the Senate hasn't passed a budget in 4 years..at least one of which they had a super-majority?

Take all the time you need.






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