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Zach 
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| Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 10:50 am)
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Cold Pizza 
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:18 am to Zach)
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Their attitude toward Notre Dame’s football team, he said, was influenced by their views on such things as “abortion rights.” “But our coolness toward Notre Dame,” Leahy writes, “also reflected fissures within the Catholic Church, cracks widening to this day over birth control, abortion rights...
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“the university filed suit against the federal government, seeking to overturn a requirement in Obama’s health-care law that employers offer insurance plans including contraception coverage--a move that more politically moderate church members resented, concerned that Notre Dame would seek to deprive women, Catholic or not, of such coverage.”
If these people are Catholic, then I'm a Democrat who believes in small government and 30 round magazines.
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Y.A. Tittle
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:20 am to Cold Pizza)
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Their attitude toward Notre Dame’s football team, he said, was influenced by their views on such things as “abortion rights.” “But our coolness toward Notre Dame,” Leahy writes, “also reflected fissures within the Catholic Church, cracks widening to this day over birth control, abortion rights...
Do they feel the University of Alabama will better reflect and represent their liberal sensibilities? 
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Zach
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:26 am to Y.A. Tittle)
The ultimate liberal CFB championship game:
U. Wisconsin, Madison v. U. Calif, Berkeley
The winner??? Doesn't matter. At the end of the game all points scored will be divided equally.
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thetempleowl
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:30 am to Zach)
I just despise Notre Dame.
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constant cough 
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:33 am to Zach)
I'm not voting for Notre Dame I'm voting against OBama.
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TrueTiger
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:36 am to Zach)
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The winner??? Doesn't matter. At the end of the game all points scored will be divided equally.
Great idea, let's apply the socialist model to football. I'm sure that that will make all fans very happy indeed. In the case of tonight's game, I'm OK with it.
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Lsut81
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:37 am to Zach)
frick Notre Dame
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UGATiger26 
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:42 am to Lsut81)
There are so many "Catholics" out there who find it so difficult to understand that the Catholic Church is not a political party.
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Meauxjeaux 
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:54 am to Cold Pizza)
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If these people are Catholic, then I'm a Democrat who believes in small government and 30 round magazines.
One of the great perplexities to me is why people want to stay associated with groups when their thinking does not line up with the group?
Jesus H Christ, join another group. Or start your own group! 
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NaturalBeam
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 11:56 am to Zach)
<------ Catholic
<------ Pulling for ND
<------ Doesn't give a frick about WaPo
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asurob1 
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:31 pm to NaturalBeam)
I eagerly look forward to watching the crying irish tears this evening when the "gumps" put the beatdown on them they have deserved all season long.
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UGATiger26
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:44 pm to Meauxjeaux)
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One of the great perplexities to me is why people want to stay associated with groups when their thinking does not line up with the group?
It's incredible.
Seriously, even people out there who think religion is a scam can at least get on board with the notion of "if you don't agree, leave."
People who claim to be Catholic yet say things like "but I beleive women have a right to choose" have no idea how the Catholic Church works.
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Bayou Sam
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 12:44 pm to asurob1)
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I eagerly look forward to watching the crying irish tears this evening when the "gumps" put the beatdown on them they have deserved all season long.
Yes, this is more or less how I feel. If I didn't work for Notre Dame I'd probably be going for them though. As it is, I would never hear the end about their superiority to the SEC / LSU.
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Vegas Bengal
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:46 pm to UGATiger26)
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People who claim to be Catholic yet say things like "but I beleive women have a right to choose" have no idea how the Catholic Church works.
I'm Catholic but I believe women have the right to choose and I know how the Catholic Church works.
And I still haven't decided who I'm pulling for.
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BeeFense5 
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:50 pm to Vegas Bengal)
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I'm Catholic but I believe women have the right to choose and I know how the Catholic Church works.
Then you aren't really catholic if you are blatantly against one of the main tenets of the faith
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UGATiger26
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:57 pm to Vegas Bengal)
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I'm Catholic but I believe women have the right to choose and I know how the Catholic Church works.
So you're in opposition to the Magisterium, but call yourself a Catholic?
Yeah, you're what I call "catholic" with a lower case "c."
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Vegas Bengal
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 1:58 pm to BeeFense5)
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Then you aren't really catholic if you are blatantly against one of the main tenets of the faith
I'm also against covering up child molestation but I am still a Catholic.
You worry about your own hypocritical a-hole and I'll worry about mine. How's that?
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Bayou Sam
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 2:01 pm to BeeFense5)
In what way is anti-abortion politics a main tenet of the faith? Seems to me a moral question...it might be based on some precepts of faith, but in itself pro- or anti-abortion should be based on rational arguments.
The pope himself doesn't command one be against abortion on his authority alone, but rather argues for the catholic position on the basis of natural reason. Which means, by the way, that faithful Catholics can disagree, in the same way that faithful catholics can disagree with each other on capital punishment or war.
This post was edited on 1/7 at 2:02 pm
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Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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| re: Catholics should not pull for Notre Dame tonight (Posted on 1/7/13 at 2:01 pm to UGATiger26)
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Yeah, you're what I call "catholic" with a lower case "c."
And you're what I call a hypocrite, lower case.
Look, I make it a point never to argue religion, even on message boards, because all faith is personal and I don't seek to question anyone's faith and find it disgusting for others to question faith. So I'm out.
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