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Mike da Tigah
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Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


How in the world did we get to this point this fast in America where where we openly discuss...

Wealth redistribution (THEFT)

Taxing Americans disproportionately because of their success in life

Gun control and national data bases tracking gun owners.

Delivering a baby and leaving it to die by neglecting it is a right

Taxing the church

6 Trillion in 4 years is a reason enough to reelect a President.

The merits of communism and socialism, without actually calling it communism or socialism.

Silencing people's free speech for the sake of appeasement through the whole PC movement, firing them, or ostracizing them.

30k drones flying overhead to watch over Americans...

Warrantless surveillance of Americans.

The Constitution being an outdated obstacle in the way of real reform.

Etc....



Who are these people and what did they do with the Americans I once knew who would never have even dreamed of such talk in their lifetime? How has the erosion all of a sudden become an avalanche? Who dropped the ball here in raising kids? Who's most responsible for all of this?


















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50Mullets
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


I blame Bush





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thetempleowl
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Wealth redistribution (THEFT)


Has been part of the progressive tax code the us has had since ... we had a progressive tax code.

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Taxing Americans disproportionately because of their success in life


See above.

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Gun control and national data bases tracking gun owners


Since I was a child. Hell, you remember the brady bill? Nothing new.

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Taxing the church


Uh, since forever. They can get tax exempt status if they qualify. Nothing new.

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6 Trillion in 4 years is a reason enough to reelect a President.


There were other reasons. Perhaps this not being a reason to not elect is more of an argument. But honestly, both sides are the same. Kick the can down the street until the street ends.

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The merits of communism and socialism, without actually calling it communism or socialism.


Everyone claims this. Not true then, not true now.

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Silencing people's free speech for the sake of appeasement through the whole PC movement, firing them, or ostracizing them.


Free speech really isn't. It is protected, but not free. You know this.

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30k drones flying overhead to watch over Americans...


Link please.






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Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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I blame Bush



He definitely has a large share of the blame, but I mean as a society who actually discusses this kind of craziness.

It's as if little Johnny was shooting spit balls and told to stop, the teacher walks out the room for a hot second, comes back in and all hell has broken loose, and even the quiet well behaved honor students are shooting spit balls at each other.







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Mike da Tigah
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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thetempleowl


How old are you?






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thetempleowl
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Member since Jul 2008
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


sorry ended it before I got to end...

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Warrantless surveillance of Americans.


I have a problem with this...

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The Constitution being an outdated obstacle in the way of real reform


Most do not feel this way. Exaggeration.

You realize that everything you listed basically is a fear thing thrown out there. Most of these things we have had since before world war two. I didn't see people crying about it then.

As far as changing the constitution, well heck, people have been claiming the constitution needs to be changed for years.

Thankfully there is a mechanism for this to happen.

No reason why people should try to change the constitution. There are a number of changes I would love to see implemented.






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thetempleowl
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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How old are you?


Old enough to realize most of the drivel you listed as being something new really isn't. How would you like the tax codes of the 50s and 60s or even 70s or early 80s?

Is that distributing enough wealth for you? Punishing the successful enough for you or was it ok back then?

Was the top taxable bracket there communistic enough for you? Or was it ok back then?

Perhaps I should ask how old are you? Do you realize that these fear tactics are actually ridiculous?

The top tax brackets from years ago paid a way higher percentage. Now I do not want to return to those days. And yes, now many people do not pay enough or I should say their fair share. But do not claim that what we are paying is some never before seen amount of taxes, because it is not.

And if you consider this stealing, wealth redistribution, communism and socialism, what did you think of things done in the past?






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thetempleowl
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He definitely has a large share of the blame, but I mean as a society who actually discusses this kind of craziness.


I thank God every day that I live in a society where any type of craziness can actually be discussed.

Sorry you don't feel the same way.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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Wealth redistribution (THEFT)

Luke 3:11. If you have two coats, give one away
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Taxing Americans disproportionately because of their success in life

Mark 12:17 Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.
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Delivering a baby and leaving it to die by neglecting it is a right

Exodus 2: Now a man of the tribe of Levi married a Levite woman, and she became pregnant and gave birth to a son. When she saw that he was a fine child, she hid him for three months. 3 But when she could hide him no longer, she got a papyrus basket for him and coated it with tar and pitch. Then she placed the child in it and put it among the reeds along the bank of the Nile.
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The merits of communism and socialism, without actually calling it communism or socialism.

Mark 6: Then Jesus directed them to have all the people sit down in groups on the green grass. So they sat down in groups of hundreds and fifties. Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people. He also divided the two fish among them all. They all ate and were satisfied






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thetempleowl
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


pretty funny stuff there wildt.

I think mike got the idea and left this fail of a thead...






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Mike da Tigah
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?
pretty funny stuff there wildt.

I think mike got the idea and left this fail of a thead...



I didn't leave. I'm just waiting on reasoning. You've failed to demonstrate anything but your reluctance to address the fact that we have drastically changed as a people in what we are willing to accept from not, and how that which was once not too long ago seen as unthinkable anti Americanism and failed communist idealism and authoritarian rule to be the new recipe for happiness in America.

In short, you've proven that YOU ARE the fumble.







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SoulGlo
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Taxing Americans disproportionately because of their success in life

Mark 12:17 Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.


Sorry, but that sentence says pay taxes and tithe. It says nothing about taxing some people more than others.

I love how dip shite liberals cry for church/state separation, then use bible verses to say we should follow their policies.






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WildTchoupitoulas
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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I think mike got the idea and left this fail of a thead...

I've never understood the criteria for a failed thread, on this board they all are equally full of fail in my eyes...






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CajunAngele
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


The democratic party has been hijacked by communists and terrorists and fake global warming crap.

When Russia's propaganda is more truthful than the U.S.'s it's time to wake the frick up!

LINK

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And This-I don't care who you are or how you feel about abortion being a right...

LINK







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SoulGlo
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


The reason why progressives have taken this long to get here is that they have been patient. The fumble has happened over decades. The radicals of the 60's are all grown up and running the show now, too. The most successful way to change a society is to do it without anybody noticing on large scale.

"We will spoon feed you socialism until one day you wake up communists." -- Paraphrased from good ol' Nikita






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thetempleowl
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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I'm just waiting on reasoning. You've failed to demonstrate anything but your reluctance to address the fact that we have drastically changed as a people in what we are willing to accept from not, and how that which was once not too long ago seen as unthinkable anti Americanism and failed communist idealism and authoritarian rule to be the new recipe for happiness in America.


Look at my previous posts. I have taken every single sentence of your post and proved just about every one of them being wrong.

Unless you consider 60 years to be recent. How long has the tax code had a progressive system?

Go back and address my points one by one as I did yours.

Almost all these ideas have been around since americas greatest generation. And you have said that I am the problem even though almost all of those ideas have been around since then?

But now you are saying they are antiamerican?

In short, I am not the fumble, you are the moron, unless you can prove what I said above is incorrect?

Or is taking line by line what I said too difficult because it is in every way correct and you know it so you just throw something empty out there?







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KeyserSoze999
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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Luke 3:11. If you have two coats, give one away



great, so the government now are the police of God's word? If you don't give the things away that you work for they step in and do it for you, to be all biblicle and shite.


BTW, I knew Ceasar and Obama is no Ceasar






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thetempleowl
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Member since Jul 2008
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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I love how dip shite liberals cry for church/state separation, then use bible verses to say we should follow their policies.


Let me let you in on a little secret if you promise not to tell anyone.

He was using sarcasm. Often the bible is used as what is correct and wrong by that particular side and hence he was using it to show what the bible said on those subjects and how old those ideas have been around.






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Mike da Tigah
St. Denham Rougeville
Member since Feb 2005
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


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Wealth redistribution (THEFT)

Luke 3:11. If you have two coats, give one away


No directive was EVER given to give the coats to Caesar for the purpose of wealth redistribution.

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Taxing Americans disproportionately because of their success in life

Mark 12:17 Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.


As a democratic Republic, the people are in essence Caesar, and have a direct say in the country's tax policies by how they vote. We are not yet under the almighty thumb of an emperor, not yet. So when you get down to it, we are responsible for all of this, and it is yet another example of the erosion that has taken place in the minds and hearts of Americans, rather than something we have no control over. FAIL


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Delivering a baby and leaving it to die by neglecting it is a right Exodus 2: Now a man of the tribe of Levi married a Levite woman, and she became pregnant and gave birth to a son. When she saw that he was a fine child, she hid him for three months. 3 But when she could hide him no longer, she got a papyrus basket for him and coated it with tar and pitch. Then she placed the child in it and put it among the reeds along the bank of the Nile.


That child lived and was an instrument God used to lead the children of Israel out of Egypt. Imagine what great things that neglected and murdered children might do if we gave them a chance and placed them. In a basket in the Nile to be adopted by another,

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quote: The merits of communism and socialism, without actually calling it communism or socialism. Mark 6: Then Jesus directed them to have all the people sit down in groups on the green grass. So they sat down in groups of hundreds and fifties. Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people. He also divided the two fish among them all. They all ate and were satisfied



Charity is not a directive to institute mandated charity at the will of Caesar or any governing body. It is a personal issue between a man/woman and their God, for if it is mandated, you do away with any and all personal responsibility, and while that may serve our laziness, it does not serve God who gave man a personal directive to be his brothers keeper, not Caesar, Rome, OR the Sanhedrin or Jewish Council, Pharisees, or Sadducees. FAIL


You fail out of your spiritual and fundamental ignorance of scripture.









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thetempleowl
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re: Fumble, Fumble... Who dropped the ball in America?


Mike please address my posts and not the sarcastic one.





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