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MFn GIMP 
LSU Fan
Somerset, Kentucky
Member since Feb 2011
7085 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:37 pm to Kashonly)
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but surely you don't mean to say that everyone with Muscular Dystophy who is collecting disability is a pathetic piece of shit?
Did you just choose to not read this part of my post? "Many use their "disabilities" as an excuse to sit at home and cash a check from the government. Granted, that doesn't apply to everyone"
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I know a 90 year old who walks 5 miles every day, surely I do not expect every 90 year to be able to do so, and would not incorporate that when creating a standard by which 90 year olds would be measured.
make sense?
There are very few disabled people who can't do some sort of work.
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HailHailtoMichigan! 
Michigan Fan
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5176 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:37 pm to Kashonly)
Does this "study" only include federal aid?
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Meauxjeaux 
Memphis Fan
I have 91k posts with all my alters
Member since Jun 2005
13343 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:23 pm to Kashonly)
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51.2 million
Number of people who have some level of disability. They represent 18 percent of the population.
32.5 million
Number of people with a severe disability. They represent 12 percent of the population.
Does this mean that 84 million out of 300 million people in this country are disabled?
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Powerman
LSU Fan
Corpus Christi, TX
Member since Jan 2004
116244 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:25 pm to Kashonly)
I would like to know how many of the "disabled" are capable of working.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
Michigan Fan
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5176 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:34 pm to Powerman)
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I would like to know how many of the "disabled" are capable of working.
80-90%, which makes the study BS.
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Queen
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383 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2009
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| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:46 pm to MFn GIMP)
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There are very few disabled people who can't do some sort of work.
That's what I wonder...especially with the amount of computer and home-based work available now. Seems if your brain functions at all you can work.
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VOR 
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
33620 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 4:58 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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80-90%, which makes the study BS.
Did I miss something? Is there any evidence to support that assertion?
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infantry1026
New Orleans Saints Fan
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2518 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:04 pm to St Augustine)
I arrested a guy a few weeks ago who is disabled. He is 27, and does not work because his disability is ADD 
And I could probably recount hundreds of people that I deal with that are similar to this :banghead:
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HailHailtoMichigan!
Michigan Fan
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5176 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:05 pm to VOR)
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Is there any evidence to support that assertion?
No, but is there any evidence that asserts that disability means you can't work?
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VOR
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
33620 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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No, but is there any evidence that asserts that disability means you can't work?
I would say there is evidence to support the proposition that the majority of those receiving SS disability payments are not frauds.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
Michigan Fan
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5176 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:08 pm to VOR)
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I would say there is evidence to support the proposition that the majority of those receiving SS disability payments are not frauds.
Many of these ridiculous disability claims are legal, not fraudulent.
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Kashonly
Member since Jan 2006
22679 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 6:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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Many of these ridiculous disability claims are legal, not fraudulent.
and why did the medical community determine to allow these legal claims? What's in it for them to do so?
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VOR
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
33620 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 6:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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Many of these ridiculous disability claims are legal, not fraudulent.
I forget what you do. Have you handled many of these cases as a doctor or an attorney?
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ItNeverRains
LSU Fan
Franklin, TN
Member since Oct 2007
4818 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 6:24 pm to Kashonly)
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and why did the medical community determine to allow these legal claims? What's in it for them to do so?
Not get jacked by some thug or toothless redneck after 10 years of med school
This post was edited on 1/6 at 6:26 pm
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Tchefuncte Tiger 
Navy Fan
Member since Oct 2004
20413 posts
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| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 7:49 pm to Kashonly)
Define "disabled" and "working households."
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Ace Midnight
LSU Fan
Ball, LA - Home, Sweet Home
Member since Dec 2006
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| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:14 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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don't both payments come out of SS?
Title II Disability comes out of the same fund as Retirement Social Security.
SSI is Title XVI and is paid from the general fund - it is means tested - for all practical purposes the same eligibility standards as Medicaid.
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LSUconvert
LSU Fan
Clackamas, Or
Member since Aug 2007
464 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:44 pm to MFn GIMP)
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Muscular Dystophy
What is this?
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buddhavista
Member since Jul 2012
3543 posts
| re: Entitlement: 91% of Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households (Posted on 1/6/13 at 10:25 pm to LSUconvert)
Even if you fix disability which is abused, you have not fixed our entitlement problem, or fix our deficit.
We have to cut SS, medicare and defense. Its the only fricking solution to our shitshow.
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