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RollTide1987
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No, it's really not. Often times, flu begins with sore throat and high fever. Strep can make someone feel really shitty.



The last time I ran a fever was in January 2007 and it was due to strep throat. Not fun at all.







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SmackoverHawg
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Opinions are like noses everyone has one. I happen to think unless you are old or very young or unhealthy generally....it is good to build up immunities by crawling in bed and drinking clear fluids and defeating it. 7 days off work is what hurts but so many are without jobs anyway.

But knock yourself out with tamiflu lol I am glad it helps someone.


Except some opinions are educated ones. Anecdotely, I have treated at least a thousand pt's over the yrs with the flu and the ones on tamiflu (even later in the course) do substanstially better than those that just ride it out. But, to each his own!






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Diamondawg
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Oh I understand them quite well. I used to be mandated to get the flu shot. And I always got the flu after the shot. There are non LIVE VIRUS flu shots though.It all gets complicated but I was healthier when I was not mandated to get the flu shots.

It depends on how well they matched the vaccine with anticipated flu varieties. From what I hear, this year's vaccine was a pretty good match.






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CajunAngele
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You do realize the Tamiflu doesn't make it magically disappear?

Yeah, it marginally helps your immune statement to beat it completely unaided, but not that much.


Yes I do realize this. Since you seem to have so much more knowledge why don't you tell us more about tamiflu? Are you from the OT? Are you a surgeon or MD that made tamiflu and you have a runway model wife, 4 mistresses that are slumming it, Victoria Secret models and at least four Jags?

Seriously you seem to know way more so enlighten us all, please.






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SmackoverHawg
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realize this. Since you seem to have so much more knowledge why don't you tell us more about tamiflu? Are you from the OT? Are you a surgeon or MD that made tamiflu and you have a runway model wife, 4 mistresses that are slumming it, Victoria Secret models and at least four Jags?

Seriously you seem to know way more so enlighten us all, please.

He chime in on alot of medical threads. He knows just enough to sound slightly knowledgable, but the more he talks the more, the he exposes his ignorance. I figure he's either a pre-med or 1st yr med. Or he's a really shitty doctor (prob foreign grad).






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CajunAngele
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Except some opinions are educated ones. Anecdotely, I have treated at least a thousand pt's over the yrs with the flu and the ones on tamiflu (even later in the course) do substanstially better than those that just ride it out. But, to each his own!


Good to know. The ER doc and all the nurses all said tamiflu no good unless onset but like cold ease (or whatever the name of the cold remedy is) You would think it would still help.






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SmackoverHawg
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Good to know. The ER doc and all the nurses all said tamiflu no good unless onset but like cold ease (or whatever the name of the cold remedy is) You would think it would still help.

I tell people that if they can afford it, get it. If not, they'll still recover. It just may take longer. It does work better early on. Now if someone comes in after a week or so of symptoms I won't give it. Generally, the symptoms only last a week or so. The worst thing about flu is that it destroys the protective linings of you respiratory tract. This leaves you very susceptable to pneumonia, bronchitis, strep etc for up to a month or more afterwards. Tamiflu can also limit this damage and decrease the likelyhood of these secondary infections.






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CajunAngele
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Hey, CajunAngele. Where you from? I'm a New Iberia Cajun.


Raised in Chalmette. Parents born and raised DT NOLA Family crest in Vacherie.

I had a child hood friend from NI.Delcom's <---
spelled wrong on purpose to get the pronunciation.
They also lived in Arabi/Chalmette.






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Zach
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Yep, I knew the Delcombres. Nice folks.





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Siderophore
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No, it's really not. Often times, flu begins with sore throat and high fever. Strep can make someone feel really shitty.


I didn't say there wasn't an overlap of symptoms.

But if it has really developed bad enough for an ER visit, strep would have already progressed to the point where you could tell the difference.

Maybe it's just me and being prone to throat cottage cheese.






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CajunAngele
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I tell people that if they can afford it, get it. If not, they'll still recover. It just may take longer. It does work better early on. Now if someone comes in after a week or so of symptoms I won't give it. Generally, the symptoms only last a week or so. The worst thing about flu is that it destroys the protective linings of you respiratory tract. This leaves you very susceptable to pneumonia, bronchitis, strep etc for up to a month or more afterwards. Tamiflu can also limit this damage and decrease the likelyhood of these secondary infections.


Excellent advice. Yeah most coming in the ER I was told were on their 5th-6th day. Some people are so used to sinus headaches especially since it is a warm winter that they had no idea they had the flu. As the throat thing can be from sinus drainage.

What is your opinion on women and yeast from antibiotics? Are there really good probiotics and or the stuff called Candi-Gone that help?I read online that cherry Malox and liquid benedryl can be a home remedy for nystatin? Or the yogurt thing?






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CajunAngele
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Yep, I knew the Delcombres. Nice folks.


Holy crap!!! Let's see if they are the same people.
It was many,many,many years ago. Their kids names are Chad, Christine <-----dark hair. I can't remember the rest of the names.






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Zephyrius
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Its dumb to mandate flu shot... Not everyone needs it. If you are susceptable(sp?) to flu get the shot if not then do what you think is best.






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Siderophore
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Yes I do realize this.


If you realize it, then why make a statement implying you were getting a big benefit going without it?

Immunologically there isn't *that* big of a difference.






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SmackoverHawg
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Probiotics can help. The yogurt? Maybe. Never heard of the malox n benedryl concoction for that.

I will generally recommend people take probiotics or yogurt with antibiotics. Especially if they are going to be on them a while. You have to be careful recommending yogurt because there are many antibiotics that the calcium blocks absorption.






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CajunAngele
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Probably because when I was a teen I had strep in my bloodstream and I was S I C K sleeping for two weeks. I will show my age but back then in a hospital in Chalmette LA, they had no idea what was the matter with me. My fever was so high they guessed toxic shock from tampons but that wasn't it. By the time they figured it out with a blood test coming back I had beat it sleeping for two weeks.

So, I NEVER get strep throat ever since then because doctors back in the 70's told me I had a good immunity built up now. But hey, I am all for the shots I just got tired of getting sick every time I was mandated to get one in this century



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SmackoverHawg
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Maybe it's just me and being prone to throat cottage cheese.

Could be. Not everyone gets an exdate with strep, and it may take days to appear. The fever, sore throat and body aches can appear before the tonsills look that bad. It's not uncommon to have both at the some time. A person may be a strep carrier and their body keeps it suppressed. Then they get flu, it damages the lining of the tonsills and now they have both. It's important to check for strep to even if someone has flu. That's where the exam is important. It's important not to miss strep. If strep goes untreated it can lead to rheumatic fever and rheumatic heart disease.






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Siderophore
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You still sore about that OT threat where you claimed that an palpitation noticeable by a third party could have been caused by a PAC.

Ignoring the fact that PACs in of themselves are usually asymptotic without medical equipment and causes the reaction you described only in conjunction with an underlying structural defect.





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CajunAngele
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Interesting about the calcium blocking absorbtion.

Is it true that the only good probiotics have a vegetable coating to survive the upper GI acids?






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SmackoverHawg
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sore about that OT threat where you claimed that an palpitation noticeable by a third party could have been caused by a PAC.

Ignoring the fact that PACs in of themselves are usually asymptotic without medical equipment and causes the reaction you described in conjunction with an underlying structural defect.

Once again showing your ignorance! PAC's are generally asymptomatic. BUT!!!! Not always. And, if palpated over the PMI (point of maximum impulse) even a normal heartbeat can be felt. So yes, someone feeling over the PMI could feel the heartbeat, and if it was irregular they could tell. The person in question did in fact say that this was EXACTLY where they were feeling it.







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