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This board in particular seems to be infected with a lot of delusional conservatives that are wrapped up in confirmation bias because they are in the company of other like minded fools.


Sure, but I've seen liberal boards that are just as bad. It's not a right-left thing. Most politard boards end up being circle jerks.

At least we have some disagreement between religious right types and libertarians.






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VOR
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Sure, but I've seen liberal boards that are just as bad.


I have no doubt.

But I do feel better seeing that a couple of other posters agree about the predominant point of view from this board. Not even saying it's a bad thing. It is what it is. It's just the failure on the part of some to acknowledge that's annoying.






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NC_Tigah
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See how easy that is?
Does Rush covers his party loyality? Hannity? Bill Kristol?

Goddamnit VOR, even George F*cking Stephanopoulos claims there is no bias. Stephanopoulos claims there is NO BIAS!That is literally the equivalent of Karl Rove in charge of a network's premier weekly talk show claiming he is totally neutral.
It is fricking retarded.






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VOR
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Goddamnit VOR, even George F*cking Stephanopoulos claims there is no bias. Stephanopoulos claims there is NO BIAS!


I've never seen his comments on that specific issue. In any event, from the few occasions I've watched, I think he makes an honest attempt at even handedness. I suggest that the fact that we know his background and experience colors (even if it's subconscious) our interpretation of his comments and our evaluation of the program.



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RCDfan1950
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Conservatives are so butt hurt from losing so many elections, they've become so paranoid that they think everyone is against them. TV media, print media, pollsters, poll analyzers, betting websites, Columnists, movies, tv shows, actors, snopes, political fact checkers, scientists. Anyone and everything that disagrees with them. Even conservative media like Frum or Brooks. And when evryone is right and conservatives are proven wrong, then they claim it's a conspiracy. It's rigged. It's bought and paid for. Conservatives cannot bring themselves to even consider that they might be wrong about anything. So they only watch and read conservative media which makes a fortune feeding them crap they want to hear. Drudge, Rush, Breitbart, Colter, Murdoch...make a fortune telling them stuff they want to hear. Doesn't matter if it's the truth. Conservative media are the modern day snake oil salesman.


Pot meet kettle!

Frum and Brooks...Conservative! Mmm huh...and Obama REALLY DID order his team to give the Benghazi four all they needed to help.

Dialogue becomes pretty useless when one side becomes so delusioned that their assessments of reality are basically clinically insane. Savage nailed it..."Liberalism IS a mental disorder".

Elections! Yeahhh! Like the Red States are going to lay down their God-given Freedom to the hoards of Obama Phone Lady types!

Theater of the absurd! Monty Python material. Snopes...don't even matter. Mama Nature will sort this one out.






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VOR
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Pot meet kettle!

Frum and Brooks...Conservative! Mmm huh...and Obama REALLY DID order his team to give the Benghazi four all they needed to help.

Dialogue becomes pretty useless when one side becomes so delusioned that their assessments of reality are basically clinically insane. Savage nailed it..."Liberalism IS a mental disorder".

Elections! Yeahhh! Like the Red States are going to lay down their God-given Freedom to the hoards of Obama Phone Lady types!

Theater of the absurd! Monty Python material. Snopes...don't even matter. Mama Nature will sort this one out.


Well, I see you're in full RCDfan1950 mode this morning.






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Bestbank Tiger
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re: So Snopes is Left Leaning Now?


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But I do feel better seeing that a couple of other posters agree about the predominant point of view from this board. Not even saying it's a bad thing. It is what it is.


On economic issues, I agree that this board is almost a hive mind (and I happen to agree with the general viewpoint).

It's almost inevitable with message boards. The board tilts further and further to one side. Reasonable people from the minority viewpoint give up because it's impossible to argue 1 against 10 or 20. Then you're left with the obnoxious trolls like DA (using TD as an example). The trolls embarrass the reasonable people on their own side and encourage the trolls on the other side, so the board leans even further to one extreme or the other.






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RCDfan1950
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Well...it all started when Mett threw that 2nd downer in the dirt! Down hill from there.

We need to keep this place entertaining anyway, V. Good fun.

Happy New Year buddy.






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NC_Tigah
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I've never seen his comments on that specific issue.
An example of his comments on that specific issue






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NC_Tigah
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I suggest that the fact that we know his background and experience colors (even if it's subconscious) our interpretation of his comments and our evaluation of the program.
Interesting that matter never arose with Russert.






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VOR
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An example of his comments on that specific issue



Well, that 10 seconds tells me a lot.






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Bestbank Tiger
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Well...it all started when Mett threw that 2nd downer in the dirt!


Million dollar arm, ten cent head. It's like JL/JJ were the George W. Bush of LSU quarterbacks and Mett is the Ogump






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VOR
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Million dollar arm, ten cent head. It's like JL/JJ were the George W. Bush of LSU quarterbacks and Mett is the Ogump



And he's got another term.






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Wario Balotelli
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Can someone please provide an example of Snopes' bias? A specific link or article would be helpful. I'm not naive to think it is completely neutral, but if their bias is so obvious a concrete example should be readily available.





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NC_Tigah
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Well, that 10 seconds tells me a lot.


Reporter: "Mr. Stephanopoulos, do you believe there is a liberal bias in the media?"

Stephanopoulos: "I don't."

Reporter: "You don't believe there is any liberal media bias?"

Stephanopoulos: [walks away]

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When Stephanopoulos said "I don't", was he lying?






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VOR
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When Stephanopoulos said "I don't", was he lying?




NC, I'm not being "cute" here, but I'd like to see more of the context. Clearly, there was something at issue there other than what was revealed in that 10 second clip. No doubt he answered "no".






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notiger1997
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I don't find that they lean left.

I know some of my more conservative friends hated snopes during the elections. They would rather have believed their BS rumor emails, so they didn't care much when I would like stuff from Snopes with my reply to them.






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NC_Tigah
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NC, I'm not being "cute" here, but I'd like to see more of the context.
You saw the context. A reporter walked up to him at the GOP convention, asked the question, and Stephanopoulos answered. PERIOD. That's it. That is the context.

From Politico 2010:
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Carville calls White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.

Emanuel calls ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent George Stephanopoulos.

A bit later, CNN commentator Paul Begala, who is not quite the early bird that his friends are, will complete the circle with a rapid set of calls to all three.
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“I refer to it as the 17-year-long conference call,” said Emanuel, who starts calling his friends at 6 a.m. “You can tap into it anytime you want.”
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In that sense, the morning calls — no single one of which usually lasts more than a few minutes — among this gang of four is the headwaters of at least one major tributary of Washington politics.

Under other circumstances, the morning calls between Emanuel, Carville, Stephanopoulos and Begala — pollster Stan Greenberg is another frequent member of the core group, a kind of “fifth Beatle” — might be a Society of Has-Beens, reliving ancient glories from the Little Rock “War Room.”

It was Emanuel’s ascension into Barack Obama’s inner circle — even as Carville and Begala remained closely linked with the defeated Clinton political machine — that saved the group from irrelevance.

The calls “are about what’s happening, what the implications are of what’s happening and what’s going on,” said Emanuel.
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Begala’s own interest, as a former speechwriter, is in rhetoric — what is likely to be the sound bite that will echo through the news cycle.

Carville is the wild card, “a genius,” in Begala’s view, “who can look at the same operative facts as everyone else and come to a different conclusion.”

Stephanopoulos’ role is as the analyst and the skeptic. “George is really a big-systems thinker,” Begala said. “As a journalist, he is half of a political scientist, and because he’s not in the partisan battles anymore, he sees things differently.”

It is a sensitive point for Stephanopoulos, who shot to fame as a Bill Clinton retainer and has worked hard to fashion a reputation as an independent journalist.

He said he does not surrender that role when he gets on the calls, nor does he surrender personal feelings that go back nearly 20 years.

“We are all good friends,” he said. “We just like talking to each other, and I learn a lot from it ... and that’s why we have been doing it for so long.”

Still, the line between journalism and politics is not always bright. Begala said he often can’t remember the originator of any particular insight: “We talk so much — was this my idea that James changed, or was this George’s observation that Rahm tweaked?”

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question:

you always talk about how the majority of the country is more left than this or that. do you apply the "middle is the median of the population" belief to a discussion like this thread about bias?






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NC_Tigah
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I don't find that they lean left.
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so they didn't care much when I would like stuff from Snopes with my reply to them
Any examples?






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