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AlaTiger  LSU Fan Alabama Member since Aug 2006 10038 posts

| When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:40 pm)
I don't know what is happening behind the scenes, but either Benson has no power at all or he is incapable of standing up for the Saints. Why wasn't he out negotiating for his coach/players? Why isn't he telling Goodell to let Payton back now that the season is over? I really don't get it. It is as though the Saints took this unprecedented punishment to their organization lying down all the while claiming that the offenses never took place. Why doesn't Benson seem to have any power with the NFL after being an owner for 27+ years?
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SBC  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2005 2920 posts
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| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:42 pm to AlaTiger)
His entire management team lied repeatedly to the nfl. I don't think he has many chips to play.
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Patrick O Rly  New Orleans Saints Fan y u do dis? Member since Aug 2011 26191 posts
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| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:44 pm to SBC)
That's some BS narrative that was never backed up with any documentation.
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AlaTiger  LSU Fan Alabama Member since Aug 2006 10038 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:44 pm to SBC)
And he then rehires them and gives them raises? If they really lied or if it was a big deal, then rehiring them seems counterproductive. I get taking the punishment, but he has not been able to reduce it one bit. It just seems odd.
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lsutigers1992  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Mar 2006 7168 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:46 pm to SBC)
There's Jones, Snyder, Mara, Kraft, and Rooney. And then there's everyone else.
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AlaTiger  LSU Fan Alabama Member since Aug 2006 10038 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:46 pm to SBC)
double post
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lsutigers1992  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Mar 2006 7168 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:49 pm to AlaTiger)
I know it's all , but I swear he got the Hornets on the cheap for his silence.
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THRILLHO  New Orleans Saints Fan New Orleans, LA Member since Apr 2006 26015 posts
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| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:52 pm to lsutigers1992)
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There's Jones, Snyder
And neither of them could do shite when Goodell fricked their caps up for making a bunch of "discouraged" roster moves in the uncapped year that, mind you, the NFL approved at the time. I'm sure Benson voiced his displeasure with Goodell in private, but going on some tirade wouldn't have helped our chances of getting our 2nd round pick back.
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saintsfan22  New Orleans Saints Fan baton rouge Member since May 2006 19937 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 6:53 pm to lsutigers1992)
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There's Jones, Snyder, Mara, Kraft, and Rooney. And then there's everyone else.
Really there's just Mara, Kraft, and Rooney. Goddell hit Jones and Snyder hard for not colluding like he wanted them to.
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goatmilker  New Orleans Saints Fan Proudville USA Member since Feb 2009 9504 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 7:42 pm to AlaTiger)
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When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment?
Its one of the worlds most exclusive 32 member clubs. Who knows the inner workings. When the majority wants rog gone, he will be gone.
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MFn GIMP  LSU Fan Somerset, Kentucky Member since Feb 2011 7085 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 8:01 pm to lsutigers1992)
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There's Jones, Snyder, Mara, Kraft, and Rooney. And then there's everyone else.
It's actually: Rooney Mara Kraft Jones Snyder
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lsutigers1992  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Mar 2006 7168 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 9:39 pm to MFn GIMP)
Yeah, but you didn't see the Cowboys lose their GM when he ignored the collusion. 
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Da #1 Stunna  LSU Fan 985 Member since Oct 2012 210 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 10:14 pm to lsutigers1992)
After Payton is finally officially reinstated. . . . . . Someone in the organization needs to put pressure on the league office to get our #2 pick back. The whole Bounty fiasco found as unsubstantiated by the former commissioner and a federal judge that the commissioner overstepped his boundaries. If they won't comply, I would go on the offensive about it in the media. All out blitz on the commissioners office. The office is weak right now over punishment backlashes. (Bounty gate and the recent overturning of the Seahawks CB suspension). That pick is crucial in building our defense this year. We need it back in the worst way. We deserve it due to what Goddell did to us this year, essentially neutering us and making it near impossible to make the playoffs.
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TigerinATL  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Feb 2005 26618 posts
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| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/5/13 at 11:46 pm to AlaTiger)
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I don't know what is happening behind the scenes, but either Benson has no power at all or he is incapable of standing up for the Saints. Why wasn't he out negotiating for his coach/players? Why isn't he telling Goodell to let Payton back now that the season is over?
The Saints are a sacrificial lamb for the league. "Standing up" isn't fighting Goodell, it's fighting the other owners. I seriously doubt Benson has any desire to alienate himself and go the Al Davis route.
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His entire management team lied repeatedly to the nfl. I don't think he has many chips to play.
According to Vilma's attorney the NFL "warning" consisted of an NFL security person asking some lower level member of the coaching staff about their "bounty" program and the NFL security person was told that the Saints didn't have one, because they didn't because PPP =/= PPI. The version the media was given to run with made it sound like Goodell told Payton and Loomis personally to stop or there'd be consequences, but Ginsberg's account, which is based on evidence in the case, not propaganda leaked to the media, is very different.
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JabarkusRussell Member since Jul 2009 6393 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:52 pm to AlaTiger)
The guy is about to die give him a break.
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BTRDD  LSU Fan Member since Jun 2009 626 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:43 pm to JabarkusRussell)
I recall reading where Benson tore into Goodell at an owners meeting, will see if I can find this.
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motorbreath  New Orleans Saints Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Jun 2004 3316 posts

| re: When Does Benson Ever Stand Up for His Team/Investment? (Posted on 1/6/13 at 5:50 pm to TigerinATL)
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According to Vilma's attorney the NFL "warning" consisted of an NFL security person asking some lower level member of the coaching staff about their "bounty" program and the NFL security person was told that the Saints didn't have one, because they didn't because PPP =/= PPI. The version the media was given to run with made it sound like Goodell told Payton and Loomis personally to stop or there'd be consequences, but Ginsberg's account, which is based on evidence in the case, not propaganda leaked to the media, is very different.
The haters don't care about this. Any time this is brought up they leave the thread only to come back a couple days later stating their stale debunked argument in another thread.
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