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LSUtigerME
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


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The kids actually hit a wild arse 3 pointer and a free throw to tie it in regulation before falling by two scores in OT.


This part loses me. You implied the other team was dominating your nephew's. So was it actually a close game, but your kids can't handle the ball? You were simply asking for "slack" to allow them to play freely?

If it was close, the other coach could have pressed. Play to win, even at that age. If the game was out of hand, then pressing is dbag, but not if it's close and going to OT.

Similar to what was mentioned, when I was younger, you could only press in the 4th, and if up by 20, limited to within 3 pt line on defense. Basically a mercy rule.






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Casty McBoozer
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


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You always hear its coaching

it's coaching

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None of the kids has fundamentals

None of the kids have fundamentals

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Mind you, my nephews team

my nephew's team

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my nephews team can barely bring the ball up the court via dribbling being defended by their imaginary friends or by air for that matter.

Again, nephew's. Also, I can't understand the meaning of this run-on sentence. I hope you're drunk.

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They harass the inbounds and take it away and after they lose it out of bounds on their end, they line up to full court press my nephews team again.

What?

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Was I wrong to loud cap this guy from the stands to shut down the press against 8 year olds? Am I now The Great Uncle Santini?

BTW-He called the press off.


What?






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Yewkindewit
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


Expect some teams to be stacked with better players. Other teams That are made up of friends kids = not too competitive and lose a lot. You probably did a good thing. The kids know but at 8 yrs old many don't care.





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ManOnDaRun
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


If pressing is allowed, then by all means press. Why is that teaching kids how to not play basketball? Its part of basketball.

Your nephew's team tied the game up? If I'm the other coach and the press is working, I wouldn't call off the press.

If they're pressing and winning by 20, that's another matter.






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Wishnitwas1998
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


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Hornets Board







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Sal Minella
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


My kid plays in BR catholic league. Pressing isn't allowed except in last minute of each half. At least I think that's the rule. Actually there's a line the defense has to set up in the half court and they can't cross the line until the offense passes center court.

I leave the coaches alone from the stands but the refs are another story. I've been offered the opportunity to call the game more than once!






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Tiger1242
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


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You always hear its coaching, but I'm not sure
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None of the kids has fundamentals as basic as dribbling and passing down pat.


That's definitely the coaches fault






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ManOnDaRun
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


The coaches can only do so much. For the most part, there are only about 15-20 practices the entire season for an hour, hour and 15. When you have to get offenses, defenses, in bounds, presses, etc. in, there is only so much time to teach fundamentals to ten different kids. If there is only one coach, that's a lot to focus on.

I'm not saying the coaches can't or don't teach fundamentals, but work outside of practice needs to be done.






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Porter Osborne Jr
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


As a coach, I can promise you it's not always the coach. Some of my best years of coaching have been losing seasons. Some times you just don't have the talent.

To the op, I usually poor it on till halftime and the call off the dogs and empty the bench. Most of my coaching buddies do the same excepr for the occasional a-hole. But that usually evens out.






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Tiger Ugly
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Eight years old is when they should be learning fundamentals. Practices should be all about dribbling, passing, etc.


This...I helped coach a team in this age group and the head coach wanted to them how to run plays and the like. The kids couldn't even dribble and had no understanding of the rules.

So they couldn't even get in position to run said plays without walking or turning the ball over.






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Tiger1242
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


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The coaches can only do so much. For the most part, there are only about 15-20 practices the entire season for an hour, hour and 15. When you have to get offenses, defenses, in bounds, presses, etc. in, there is only so much time to teach fundamentals to ten different kids. If there is only one coach, that's a lot to focus on.

I don't wanna hurt anyone's feelings but if you're a coach for 8 year olds and you're moving on from fundamentals to work on other stuff when your players don't have them down your hurting them and your team.






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jac1280
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


I am currently coaching a 13-16 yr old boys city league team. I focus on defense the majority of the time almost every practice. I run a 2-3 trap zone and tell them if we can hold teams under 25-30 points, we will be in every game we play. We are 7-0 and have won our last 5 games by at least 22 points.

Btw, our league has a rule that once a team gets up by 25 points, when the leading team is on defense, they must stay in the lane and can't even leave the lane for rebounds. Also, the clock runs the rest of the game, no matter. I hate this rule and wish they would just call the game when a team got up by 25 points.






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ManOnDaRun
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


Agreed. But the op is complaining that the other team was pressing and it hurt his feelings. If one team has the game down and the other doesn't, then don't complain.

All I am saying is, fundamentals should be first, but if the kids can get the ball down the court, they need to then know what to do with the ball. The op said his team tied the game and sent it to ot. They must have some fundamentals down. If the other team is pressing, then they need to know how to break it. You can't complain if the other team is just better than you without breaking any rules.






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Porter Osborne Jr
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


Or they played the other last place team.

Edit: not other since they lost to them in ot.



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BrownBear
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


what was the final score?





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Da #1 Stunna
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


The problem is things are not like they used to be. Kids don't go outside and play basketball anymore. They don't practice on their own. Parents are scared people are going to abduct their kids if they let them outside alone and they are too lazy to be out there with them. Xbox isn't helping the situation either.

Bottom line is this - Basketball, unlike all the other sports is the hardest to play. It requires more skill than any of the other sports out there. That means practice. Coaches get little to no practice with their teams in rec programs. It only hurts the kids. Rec programs don't really care about player development. If you want your kid to be good at this sport, find a local AAU program and play year round, commit to a program that practices year round. All kid sports are specialized now even at a young age. Get him good at something, rather than half arse at 3 or 4 sports. This is the only way he will play in JR high or High School.

Back to the OP. The coach of the team crushing your nephew sounds like a dickhead. I am not a trophy participation guy. I am a don't be a cock just for your own ego boost guy. Unfortunately there are a lot of a-hole guys out there involved in youth sports that have no business in it.

My team played tonight. We played an inferior team. We half court pressed them and were up by 20 at halftime. At that point I just went to a man defense and called off the 1/2 court press. Mid third quarter, I played my 5 weakest players the rest of the way. We won by 15 and I got a lot of experience for my weaker kids. Win win. When you have a good team, its like owning a gun. You need to be responsible with it for the sake of both teams.






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primemover225
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


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Mind you, my nephews team can barely bring the ball up the court via dribbling being defended by their imaginary friends or by air for that matter. It's obvious to everyone in the stands that they can't.
hilarious. man someone teach these kids how to pass. That's how you beat the press.

And to the new recruit at the grammar police, sometimes people post from their phones and apostrophes every damn where isn't the most convenient thing.



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Matisyeezy
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


To the OP, I remember playing as a 12-year-old and getting absolutely curbstomped by a team of "12-year-olds" that ran all over the court on us. They were notably taller and notably more developed than us; kids were legitimately running the pick-and-roll, not that they needed to, and scoring at will. They pressed the entire game and I can guarantee that we didn't learn anything from that experience nor did they. At that age, sportsmanship and fundamentals are the qualities that should be enforced.

Now, I'm not one to say that everyone wins or some bullcrap like that, but there's a point where it's just ludicrous. The opposing coach should have put in the "scrubs," i.e., the kids who were subpar, and just shifted into standard man, halfcourt defense. I know there's an element of giving the scrubs experience, but really? It's not about ruining kids self-esteem at that level. The kids who can and can't play will be sorted out in high school.






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primemover225
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re: Watched my 8 year old nephew play youth league hoops tonight...


lol yeah, I remember getting crushed a couple times at the boys & girls club by guys who were otherwise nerds. Didn't feel great.

moral is, there are no gimmes in this league!



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