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Bear Is Dead 
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:23 pm to 228Tiger)
TM7 didn't start his freshman year.
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JakeFromStateFarm
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:26 pm to Bear Is Dead)
None of the freshmen will be named "starters". Several will probably see significant playing time
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Curt
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Doesn't Curter have some work to do in the weight room before he gets on the field. I saw where his weight was listed as 165. lbs.
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yung tiger
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Alabama
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 9:50 pm to Curt)
So most of you guys feel white > robinson?
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Lester Earl 
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:17 pm to PacoDeTaco)
It's not really valid. This thread comes up every year. Thunderbird is famous for it. Rarely does a fresh ever start.
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SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:22 pm to Lester Earl)
Jalen Mills jumped Collins. Kwon Started.
Vadal (initially injury but he earned it)
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phison
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quote:
None of the freshmen will be named "starters". Several will probably see significant playing time
This
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phison
Member since Dec 2011
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:26 pm to yung tiger)
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So most of you guys feel white > robinson?
yes. pretty much the consensus as of now
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BigZinMetry
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:33 pm to phison)
Does Cutrer have grade issues?
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phison
Member since Dec 2011
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:34 pm to BigZinMetry)
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Does Cutrer have grade issues?
Yeah word is he was a little questionable, but now seems like hes gonna make it.
Thats just what Ive been hearing and believing
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Lester Earl
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:35 pm to SammyTiger)
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Jalen Mills jumped Collins. Kwon Started.
Vadal (initially injury but he earned it)
if he asks what FR may start because of injury, then we can talk up some names.
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PacoDeTaco
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BR
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:40 pm to Lester Earl)
My bet is that white and beckwith start. Beck at Sam and white opposite mills. However the coaches may want to add some size to white before he contributes. Guy has skills.
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phison
Member since Dec 2011
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:43 pm to Lester Earl)
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if he asks what FR may start because of injury, then we can talk up some names.
Exactly. Its completely silly to think these high schoolers are considered starters on our D if everyone is healthy, even if players leave.
yes, if multiple corners or safeties go down, I could see someone like White or Cutrer getting some quality snaps...but theres still players like THomas Raymond Holmes Thompson Saldolph Eugene, etc in the program
Same with DL, if a few guys get hurt, Gilmore and company could push QThomas and MJohnson for PT.
Not knocking the incoming class at all, I have high hope for them and think some will contribute now, but dubbing some as starters now it wrong. As of now, Herron is not better than Rasco/Hunter, Gilmore isnt better than Freak/Ego, etc
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Lester Earl
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/4/13 at 10:52 pm to PacoDeTaco)
Collins played too much not to start opposite of Mills ,imo
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tig3rbai7
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Member since Aug 2008
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/5/13 at 1:46 am to phison)
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Exactly. Its completely silly to think these high schoolers are considered starters on our D if everyone is healthy, even if players leave.
yes, if multiple corners or safeties go down, I could see someone like White or Cutrer getting some quality snaps...but theres still players like THomas Raymond Holmes Thompson Saldolph Eugene, etc in the program
Same with DL, if a few guys get hurt, Gilmore and company could push QThomas and MJohnson for PT.
Not knocking the incoming class at all, I have high hope for them and think some will contribute now, but dubbing some as starters now it wrong. As of now, Herron is not better than Rasco/Hunter, Gilmore isnt better than Freak/Ego, etc
This post makes the most sense out of any post in this thread.
The post in quotations seems like a rational post towards the production of the 2013 class.
if there are no injuries
This post was edited on 1/5 at 1:49 am
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lsufanva
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sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/5/13 at 4:14 am to tig3rbai7)
If I had to venture a guess for game 1, none. By the end of the year I could see a couple.
Herron-not likely early but I could see it later if Hunter or Rasco get hurt or are just ineffective. His size, strength and athletic ability are college ready. Will play a lot most likely. I have no faith in Allen and Maclin to be good depth
Patterson-not ready for playing time unless he really hits the weightroom
Neal-I don't see him as a starter ever but I think he plays a lot his freshman year. He's as ready physically as he's gonna get.
Lacouture-could be ready to contribute next year either outside or inside depending on how the depth shakes out and how he hits the weights between now and then. I see a redshirt but could be convinced either way.
Gilmore-physically about ready but is raw. Not gonna start regardless and if he does, we're in big trouble. I see him playing.
Bain-redshirt. Too raw.
Lawson-same as above
Beckwith-could see him playing quite a bit but I think he should seriously consider playing DE. He could play a lot there next year. At OLB he'll get lost in the shuffle next year. Too many guys to battle. He could win out of course but I think Tahj Jones starts at one OLB spot and Alexander the other. If he can play the middle then maybe.
Jones-I could see him starting by mid to late year. I think he's the top option at MLB.
White-the best chance to start. He's ready in every way. Depends on Collins, Mills and how Thomas and Raymond have developed.
Robinson-needs to redshirt but depending on the guys above may not be afforded the luxury.
Jefferson-physically I think he could play next year if the depth works out. I'd play him before Robinson.
Brazil-offense imo
Cutrer-too small t play next year. I think Dwayne Thomas gets moved over before he plays. Loston, Eugene, Thompson, Martin and Sandolph should be able to hold S down for a year until Cutrer is ready. Once Cutrer gets there physically they better all be on notice.
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Penrod
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/5/13 at 8:06 am to PacoDeTaco)
It would take an injury/suspension (Kwon for Tahj) or an extraordinary freshman beating a more experienced guy (Mills vs Collins). It doesn't seem like it at this point, but the odds are it will happen by the middle of the season.
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TxTiger82
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Member since Sep 2004
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| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/5/13 at 12:35 pm to PacoDeTaco)
Herron - WDE
Beckwith - rush specialist
Willis - Nickel/Dime corner and/or backup safety
White - Nickel/Dime corner
EDIT: I meant these guys will get PT, not start.
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Choot em Tiger
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Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
4083 posts
| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/5/13 at 1:11 pm to lsufanva)
Isn't barrow coming back? I don't think Kwon is going to start if barrow comes back. Beckwith should go to de.
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toughcrittercrumb
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Houston
Member since Nov 2008
342 posts
| re: Freshman Starters on defense (Posted on 1/5/13 at 1:47 pm to Choot em Tiger)
Barrow, Alexander, and Jones will likely be the starters.
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