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What civil liberties are republicans pushing for strict limits on?


Republicans aren't in power, so they aren't pushing for much of anything at the moment. However, last I checked, groups waiving the Republican banner passed the Patriot Act, continue to support the War on Drugs, defended sodomy laws, defended Blue Laws, pushed a Constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman, sought to limit abortions in the cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother, as well as many other examples, though I feel as though I've listed enough to convey my point.

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A federal blanket allowance of gay marriage and abortion IS big government, leaving it up to the states is small government.


No it isn't. Republican state governments banning homosexual marriage is simply one step towards decentralization. Any imposition on the right to contract is big government, no matter which level of government does it.

As for abortion, I've never argued that the Republican Party should stop defending their position on abortion, as long as they stayed away from rape, incest, and life of the mother. I think that reasonable people can disagree on at-will abortions.

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Sexual perversion, amnesty and infanticide are civil liberties? Since when? I didn't get the memo.


I've already covered the first and third. I never spoke of the second. Merely because I make reference to the GOP's attacks on civil liberties doesn't mean I was referencing literally everything in the OP.



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ChineseBandit58
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Even though I support a strong military and national defense, there is still plenty of waste that can be cut in the defense department.

Of course there is waste, and some fraud, in the defense budget - any multi-billion federal expenditure is going to have that. And I support getting downright ugly in rooting it all out.

I would support an across the board 30% cut in every single federal expenditure - no exceptions. Every Dept Secy would find that amount to cut or resign - period.

Then next year, there should be another automatic 30% cut, with exceptions specifically itemized and justified by the Dept Secy. Justification to be voted on by the House of Rep.

Continue every year until the budge it balanced.

Abolish the automatic 10% increase every year. Make a 'cut' mean you spent less this year than you did last year. No more of these 'cuts' that just mean a reduced rate of increase.

We have allowed the very language of the nation to be perverted.






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20MuleTeam
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Was he high and surrounded by Dominican hookers again?





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accnodefense
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Republicans aren't in power, so they aren't pushing for much of anything at the moment. However, last I checked, groups waiving the Republican banner passed the Patriot Act, continue to support the War on Drugs, defended sodomy laws, defended Blue Laws, pushed a Constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman, sought to limit abortions in the cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother, as well as many examples, though I feel as though I've listed enough to convey my point.


None of what you listed are God given rights. No such fundamental right exists and never has. Your rights are not dependent on the actions of gov't or anyone else. Marriage is the sanctioning of a union by the state. If you want to shack up with your boyfriend it's your right.

Privileges such as a driver's license or marriage license are not "rights" they are "privileges".






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ChineseBandit58
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I feel as though I've listed enough to convey my point.

Bull shite <---- what you listed.

You are just pissed that the traditions in place when the nation was founded were enshrined in our constitution by the founders.

Everything you listed is some modern idea of a 'right' that our bigoted founders were guilty of not 'protecting.'

What you are for is abrupt cultural upheaval - just because you think it is the progressive thing to do.

If you want those things in the constitution as enumerated 'rights' then do what the constitution provided as a way to keep up with the times - WRITE AND PASS AND AMENDMENT.

Don't just expect the entire nation to bow down to your newly established set of progressive fads. And don't accuse conservatives of being against civil right just for wanting to conserve the constitution as it was written. We are all willing to engage in a debate on an amendment - as provided by the constitution.

YOU on the other hand just want your 'wants' to be accepted without debate.

Screw you.



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Joshjrn
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None of what you listed are God given rights. No such fundamental right exists and never has. Your rights are not dependent on the actions of gov't or anyone else. Marriage is the sanctioning of a union by the state. If you want to shack up with your boyfriend it's your right.

Privileges such as a driver's license or marriage license are not "rights" they are "privileges".


I don't recall making any mention of god. As for the rest of your post, I find it ironic that you don't consider the government picking winners and losers (i.e. giving benefits to certain groups but not others) to be examples of "big government". Gives insight into why Republicans have remained hypocritical for so long: they are incapable of seeing their hypocrisy.






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Joshjrn
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Screw you.


You're an overgrown child. I'm also certainly not "pissed," though you certainly seem to be. You also seem utterly incapable of discerning between what constitutes "small government" and what constitutes a "Constitutional right". When you figure out that they aren't synonymous, we can continue our discussion. Until then, go find a sandbox to play in






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VOR
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100% correct. GOP is running out of principles to compromise on, cave in on, or throw away. We keep hearing how the GOP need to fold on amnesty, immigration, gay marriage, abortion, gun rights, entitlements, taxes, etc. etc. etc. etc. then the GOP can get the democrats where it really matters, spending.

But if the GOP can't hold firm on any of the above core principles, what makes you possibly think they can hold firm and get the Democrats to fold when it comes to the very foundation of the democrat party, high levels of government spending?



The DNC prays that the GOP has this same attitude and puts into practice in future campaigns.






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Well, "standing" for "small government" and at the same time pushing for strict limits on civil liberties, of all types, is hypocrisy. If you were less hypocritical, you'd run into fewer problems of credibility when it came to your other pet projects.






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ChineseBandit58
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Republicans aren't in power, so they aren't pushing for much of anything at the moment. However, last I checked, groups waiving the Republican banner passed the Patriot Act, continue to support the War on Drugs, defended sodomy laws, defended Blue Laws, pushed a Constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman, sought to limit abortions in the cases of rape, incest, and life of the mother, as well as many other examples, though I feel as though I've listed enough to convey my point.


This is what I responded to.

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seem utterly incapable of discerning between what constitutes "small government" and what constitutes a "Constitutional right".


If you are going to gauge responses to you bull shite list by using those high-minded principles then double-screw yourself. You didn't say anything about 'small govt' vs 'constitutional rights' in your bull shite list.

Your list is devoid of 'constitutional rights' and I don't give a shite about what YOU mean by 'small govt.'

To me, small government wouldn't be touching stupid ideas like homosexual 'marriage' or 'abortion-at-will.' (you certainly didn't exclude it in your bull shite list)

You'd have to go back fifty years to find support for 'blue laws' and you'd find more DEMs than GOP in that camp.

Your 'war on drugs' is probably the primary arrow in your quiver. Get your DEMs to propose those laws be repealed - see how much support you get.

YOU are the hypocritical one - assigning all 'bad' legislation to the GOP, and never mentioning the absolute shit-pie the DEMs have produced.







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More like totally off-base. Rush is the pied piper leading the republican lemmings off the cliff...the reason the fiscal issues get lost is because of the anti-liberty social stances. But go ahead and march on in to the dust bin....at least maybe that will give true fiscal conservatives, small govt pro-freedom folks a chance to actually get a 3rd party off the ground.





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Rush Limbaugh

When will people on both sides realize that this guy is a radio personality, not a real person?






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Turbeauxdog
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why the GOP is so weak


Lack of chartered buses and $5 foot longs on election day.






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Please explain.



He wants to be able to do drugs legally






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carbola
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Not going to get into all of it with you, but from the your post and the quote

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If you want to shack up with your boyfriend it's your right.


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defended sodomy laws









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carbola
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He wants to be able to do drugs legally


I don't do drugs personally but why should the government dictate what I can and cannot put into my own body?






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SoulGlo
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When did Rush start his show? 1990 or so? And how many elections have Republicans carried the popular vote since?

1

Republicans have lost 5 of the last 6 popular vote elections. Youre running out of ideas. Maybe you should stop listening o Rush.


He supported Reagan and opposed GHWB in the primaries in 1980, and we see how Reagan did. I would assume he wasn't a huge fan of GHWB in 1992 either, but Bush was the VP and automatic nominee.

He opposed Dole in the primaries. Dole got his arse whooped.

He opposed GWB in primaries b/c he was a fake("compassionate") conservative, and said that GWB would change the definition of "conservative." That happened.

He opposed McCain. McCain got bent over.

He opposed Romney. Romney won the "independents" by a massive margin, and got beat.

Your argument needs work.



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Rush Limbaugh was right on the money today
onooz, a thread started on the poliboard that rush was right on the money today, I'm shocked - praise the lawd!






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Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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"We are going to have to carry McCain across the finish line together "

"Romney is our guy. We can do this"

Bo Peep has lost his sheep.
Sure.... There are the mindless who will follow. It's what they do. It's all they know. It leaves them with only having to think for themselves 21 hours a day.






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Joshjrn
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I don't do drugs and I'm not gay. This is exactly your problem. Republicans claim to support small, limited government, yet only seem interested in limiting government when it suits them. When it comes to a liberty interest they themselves don't use? Republicans are perfectly fine with government dictating the lives of its citizens. That's precisely the hypocrisy I'm talking about, and the partisan hacks on this thread have illustrated it in spades.

It astounds me that Relublicans don't see that they lose credibility when cry about "liberty" when it comes to taxes, yet aren't in the least bit interested in the concept when it's a liberty interest they don't like. Do you think poor people give a shite about the fiscal liberty interest of the wealthy? The system only works when people are interested in, and defend, the rights of others. Republicans refuse to do that, so they lose ideological capital.

As for the absolutely asinine partisan nonsense of accusing me of not bringing Democrats to task, stop it, you hack. This thread is about Republicans, so I discussed republicans. If you'd like to hear me discuss Democratic hypocrisy, make a thread about Democrats. I'd be happy to oblige.

You see, not everyone who disagrees with Republicans is a Democrat. Some of us are libertarians, and this thread is indicative of why the Republican Party doesn't get our vote.



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