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Hoodoo Man  LSU Fan Sunshine Pumping most days. Member since Oct 2011 8903 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:25 pm to BarbeTiger)
I wouldn't call TM7 a guy with bad character. The dude absolutely was a firecracker in the lockerroom. The weed thing just needs to be dealt with.
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Suntiger  USA Fan BR or somewhere else Member since Feb 2007 18370 posts
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| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:37 pm to Hoodoo Man)
TM7 needs to get out of Louisiana. He obviously has bad influences here and needs to go somewhere like Buffalo or Kansas City or New England where he can't get in trouble. He can be successful in the right environment. It kind of reminds me of Jamarcus. As soon as Oakland signed him, I knew he had no chance. Same for TM7. A team like Oakland or Carolina will just get him in trouble.
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BarbeTiger  New Orleans Saints Fan Mr. White's Lab Yo Member since Jan 2012 2960 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:39 pm to Suntiger)
He could be good in Arizona with Peterson
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GratefulRebFallTour  Ole Miss Fan Shakedown Street Member since Dec 2010 608 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:44 pm to GeauxZone90)
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honey badger
Yes, the ultimate team player 
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ffhouston  LSU Fan The Woodlands Member since Sep 2007 1397 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:45 pm to Lago Tiger)
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I don't want to piss anyone off but could we get anything out of a Ingram trade .
Sure, just offer him up to Saban once he takes a new gig in 10 days or so. Former players help with installing "the process".
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dlesage23  LSU Fan Member since Feb 2011 208 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 1:04 pm to STEVED00)
I would really like us select Matt Elam of FLA. every time I watch Florida play the kid is all over the field. Can cover, intercept, and tackle with authority. Really is a playmaker and has what it takes to pump up the D.
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blueslover  New Orleans Saints Fan soon to be south of zero Member since Sep 2007 18292 posts
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| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 1:24 pm to BarbeTiger)
kinda on this playmaker train idea. The beauty of football to me is that it is one of the best "team" sports. That is, the coordination and performance of each player contributes to the outcome. Not like beisbol where you can plug 'n play any old slugger into a cleanup spot. In roundball get just a couple of dominant athletes and you can win big. That said, it is painfully evident that the missing piece here is pass rush. All the DBs get some degree of flak but it's hard to judge the youngsters when asked to do so much so soon. Imagine Corey White covering players from Elon and Furman one year. The next he is forced into starting across from Roddy White or Jordy Nelson. Pass rush will make them all look better. Better coverage will create more situational pressure for rushers but not nearly as much as the other way around. Any DB, even elite, can only be asked to cover for so many seconds.
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Sho Nuff  LSU Fan Hawaii Member since Feb 2009 1708 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 12/31/12 at 1:40 pm to STEVED00)
If we're keeping Spags and you want a play maker, I say they should go for Margus Hunt. JPP type of freak athlete. Of course, there are some other good DE's out there as well, but this guy Hunt could be a pure beast. As far as TM, if he was available in the 6th round or later (which he won't) then sure go for a guy that will mainly play on ST's and could be put in some nickle packages. He's not a great cover but he is a ball hawk and is explosive. But NOLA is the WORST place possible for that kid.
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motorbreath  New Orleans Saints Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Jun 2004 3227 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:43 am to Sho Nuff)
Don't understand why people keep saying Nola is the worst place for him. He has a support structure down here. If he goes anywhere else he will have the same problems but will be left to deal with it all by himself.
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Brettesaurus Rex  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Dec 2009 14022 posts
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| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:56 am to blueslover)
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That said, it is painfully evident that the missing piece here is pass rush. All the DBs get some degree of flak but it's hard to judge the youngsters when asked to do so much so soon
Thank you. I'm def not opposed to taking a S or CB this draft, hell I hope we take both, but if we take anything but the best pass rusher on the board with our first pick I'll be very highly disappointed
This post was edited on 1/1 at 9:57 am
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blueslover  New Orleans Saints Fan soon to be south of zero Member since Sep 2007 18292 posts
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| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:07 pm to Brettesaurus Rex)
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if we take anything but the best pass rusher on the board with our first pick I'll be very highly disappointed
You might get prepared then. No Bushrod re-signed or UFA signed and LT elevates as an even greater need I can envision Mingo, Montgomergy, & Ansah on the board and another position player grading higher BPA to take. Hoping like you but could see it Even better... let's get the pass rusher before the draft. Older types like Freeney or Osi could be stopgap or my favorite would be Michael Johnson if they can afford him. Then you're really free for BPA.
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Servedinafghanistan  New Orleans Saints Fan FWB, FL Member since Feb 2005 6367 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:10 pm to BarbeTiger)
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How long until he has to serve a 4 game suspension?
Pre-Season Game 2
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STEVED00  North Carolina St. Fan Metairie, LA Member since May 2007 9960 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 6:07 pm to blueslover)
Our starting safeties (Harper/Jenkins) rarely get INTs and that is a HUGE problem IMO. Jenkins at FS is terrible at creating TOs.
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St Augustine  New Orleans Saints Fan The Pauper of the Surf Member since Mar 2006 36502 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 6:14 pm to Gutter74)
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Unload Will Smith, Roman Harpers salary on other teams for draft picks.
dude teams wouldn't take these salaries for free let alone GIVE us anything. please stick to madden
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Brettesaurus Rex  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Dec 2009 14022 posts
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| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 6:51 pm to blueslover)
I just feel like this draft sets up very well for us to get one of those top flight guys that could be playmakers for a long time for us.
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STEVED00  North Carolina St. Fan Metairie, LA Member since May 2007 9960 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/1/13 at 9:46 pm to blueslover)
Our starting safeties (Harper/Jenkins) rarely get INTs and that is a HUGE problem IMO. Jenkins at FS is terrible at creating TOs.
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wildtigercat93  LSU Fan Central, LA Member since Jul 2011 26001 posts
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| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/2/13 at 1:24 am to BarbeTiger)
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Call me crazy but I kind of want high character guys
TM7 may be a high character guy alright
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SJS Eagle 85  New Orleans Saints Fan P-Town Member since Apr 2009 4976 posts

| re: #1 need on Defense isn't one specific position but a playmaker IMO (Posted on 1/2/13 at 10:21 am to motorbreath)
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Don't understand why people keep saying Nola is the worst place for him. He has a support structure down here
He had a support structure at LSU too. Still didn't work for the young man. Also consider that only two of his positive tests were made public. No telling how many he failed that we didn't hear about. He reminds me way too much of Ricky Williams.
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