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ForeLSU 
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:57 am to Rex)
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That's quite a stupid post considering that as a retired person my own income and livelihood are almost 100% tied to stock market gains and losses.
you're retired and your income strategy is playing the market?
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 9:59 am to Rex)
Gerald,
Go frick yourself. Sideways. With a 2x4.
I hereby proclaim THIS post as the Post of the Year.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro)
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the mind of progressives is based in the thought that we need government to push societal progress
they see certain policies as possibly affecting the direct goal of that policy, and since it may work, it's worth trying. unintended consequences aren't discussed because they have tunnel vision on particular issues
one of the ironies of progressives is that they OFTEN see boogeymen in big, powerful organizations that direct human behavior (namely, evil corporations or churches). they do not seem to find the same evil in equivalent bodies, as long as those bodies are working towards the progress that they believe in
it's a similar situation to hating religion or being a "boring corporate drone" for handing down ideologies or expectations of behavior, while they fully accept the ideologies and expectations of behaviors of those who create progressive policies
Post of the year award winner!
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i have to add something
as i stated last night, i've been trying to formulate the OP for a thread and haven't been able to, but it involves the fallout from this massacre, with progressives screaming WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
they always believe there is a governmental policy that can solve a solution, or that we should TRY SOMETHING and hope that it works. getting into a few gun debates post-sandy hook, i had many tell me "well at least we tried something, even if it didn't work"
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro)
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the mind of progressives is based in the thought that we need government to push societal progress they see certain policies as possibly affecting the direct goal of that policy, and since it may work, it's worth trying. unintended consequences aren't discussed because they have tunnel vision on particular issues one of the ironies of progressives is that they OFTEN see boogeymen in big, powerful organizations that direct human behavior (namely, evil corporations or churches). they do not seem to find the same evil in equivalent bodies, as long as those bodies are working towards the progress that they believe in it's a similar situation to hating religion or being a "boring corporate drone" for handing down ideologies or expectations of behavior, while they fully accept the ideologies and expectations of behaviors of those who create progressive policies
Sorry, but your post is just typical pablum around here: full of false stereotypes, generalizations, red herrings, strawmen, and non sequiturs.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:11 am to Rex)
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Sorry, but your post is just typical pablum around here: full of false stereotypes, generalizations, red herrings, strawmen, and non sequiturs.
What exactly is incorrect about his post? I can't wait to see this. I highly doubt you would give an honest rebuttal. You know he nailed it.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:12 am to Rex)
without question
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:14 am to Rex)
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Sorry, but your post is just typical pablum around here: full of false stereotypes, generalizations, red herrings, strawmen, and non sequiturs.
Headgear [ON] / OFF
This post was edited on 12/31 at 10:20 am
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro)
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"well at least we tried something, even if it didn't work"
This is the absolute best description of the leftist mindset.
Got a problem? Create a program based on knee-jerk feel-good emotion.
Doesn't work? Create another program that exacerbates the original problem.
Still doesn't work? Repeat the process until they propose another program so preposterous that almost every sane individual says W.T.F.
Then blame conservatives for the entire mess because for agreeing with them and being non-compassionate.
Then post psycho-babble on TD wearing a dog-head.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:23 am to BeeFense5)
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I highly doubt you would give an honest rebuttal.
If Rex ever gave an honest rebuttal - hell, even an honest post - then THAT would be universally acclaimed as the POTY.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:25 am to Rex)
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Sorry, but your post is just typical pablum around here: full of false stereotypes, generalizations, red herrings, strawmen, and non sequiturs
Rex, you seem like a pretty good, solid guy!!!
Now if bull shite is the measuring stick for "post of the year"...my post just might challenge some of your posts for "post of the year"! 
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:25 am to Rex)
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Has to be my own explanation of how it's both unfair and illogical, except to further enrich the rich, to tax capital gains except on new issues at a lower rate than on ordinary income.
I vote this sentence of the year. 
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ForeLSU
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:28 am to SlowFlowPro)
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or that we should TRY SOMETHING and hope that it works
two big factors here, IMO. First, the notion of "we have to do something to solve abc" in many cases is more about the "we" than the solution. Kind of like conspicuous charity. Second, this is also about the problem of critical thinking and second/third order consequences.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:31 am to ForeLSU)
There is something fishy about his statements regarding his income being totally tied to the stock market, yet he lives comfortably without being rich.
He must have a balling defined benefit retirement plan.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:32 am to Rex)
I am so glad nothing was in my mouth when I glanced at your thread. I would be busy cleaning the monitor and keyboard for days Rexella.
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:36 am to Rex)
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Sorry, but your post is just typical pablum around here: full of false stereotypes, generalizations, red herrings, strawmen, and non sequiturs.
i'm willing to have the first poli board debate with you about it, if you wish
i just have to make a few phone calls today and i can clear out my calendar
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:48 am to Rex)
even progressives like matthew yglesias disagree
sweet op though
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:51 am to PuntBamaPunt)
Definitely Emoticon of the Year!
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro)
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i'm willing to have the first poli board debate with you about it, if you wish
Start a thread on it but the progressive spin might be strong enough to cause seizures
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Rex
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| re: Post of the Year (Posted on 12/31/12 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro)
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the mind of progressives is based in the thought that we need government to push societal progress
The very purpose of our government, as even acknowledged by our own Constitution, is to promote the general welfare. Having said that, your gross generalization about the mind of "progressives" is no different from the minds of everyone else: you think roads and bridges are socially advantageous so you want them built by government, you think armies are socially protective so you want them maintained by government, you see abortions as socially destructive so you want them banned by government, you see guns as socially necessary so you want them revered by government, you see religion as beneficial so you want it coddled by government, etc., etc., etc. Your own view of government playing a necessary role is no different from mine; the difference is only in the details.
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they see certain policies as possibly affecting the direct goal of that policy, and since it may work, it's worth trying.
Again, your motivations are no different, thus the constant calls for prohibitions against sexual privacy, free speech, marriage equality, artistic expression, etc., etc.
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unintended consequences aren't discussed because they have tunnel vision on particular issues
That's just a false generalization and a ridiculous insult not worthy of discussion.
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one of the ironies of progressives is that they OFTEN see boogeymen in big, powerful organizations that direct human behavior (namely, evil corporations or churches). they do not seem to find the same evil in equivalent bodies, as long as those bodies are working towards the progress that they believe in
That's a pretty odd statement for a non-"progressive" to make, considering his easy proclivity to hypocritically rail against the dangers of our own government while insisting on its mandates for his preferred policies, as already described, or considering the often vile condemnations of institutions such as the ACLU, FFRF, Planned Parenthood, etc., whose missions are the protection of personal liberties.
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it's a similar situation to hating religion or being a "boring corporate drone" for handing down ideologies or expectations of behavior,
Your own motivations are no different. The non-religious "hate" religion as false for its doctrines and its desired policies, just as the religious hate the opposite. In fact, religious expectations of behavior are far more dogmatic and restrictive than are those of the non-religious.
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while they fully accept the ideologies and expectations of behaviors of those who create progressive policies
At this point I'm only repeating myself. Your own motivations are no different. It's a self-evident proposition to state that to do otherwise than accept your own social desires would be insane bipolarism.
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