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Sentrius  USA Fan Fort Rozz Member since Jun 2011 8290 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:50 pm to Champagne)
This thread.... Yikes.
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 8049 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:53 pm to Tiger in Texas)
Yes, this FO, these coaches and some of these players have done some wonderful things since 2005. I can give them props for what they've done well, and at the same time, identify what they have failed to do well. In what area of franchise building have they failed? Defense. How do you overcome a historical record of losing? Sustained excellence. How do you build sustained excellence? Stop fricking up for years in building your D roster.
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Aintsaloser  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Sep 2012 109 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:53 pm to Slapouttiger)
world class speed on defense. defense wins championships. Game is won on the offensive and defensive lines and also with speed not by a Breesus. Breesus didn't do shite. I would put the fastest defense in the world on there: no way they could lose.
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 8049 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 5:57 pm to Tiger in Texas)
That WAS a poorly run franchise for decades. I expect excellence. What the FO and HC have done for the past five years in building the D cannot be called "excellence." I'll bet they agree. Let's watch them fix it. . . . and again, all of the name calling and bashing . . . it affects me not at all. I expect fans to react in that manner. I'm simply being objective, critical and vocal in my expectations that NFL professionals produce excellence in all phases of the game ON A SUSTAINED AND CONTINUOUS BASIS. EXCELLENCE is the standard. If there is failure to attain excellence, then understand why failure occurred, and take measures to correct the deficiencies so that EXCELLENCE can be attained. But, make no mistake: anything less than Excellence requires improvement. Excellence is the standard. Accept no substitutes.
This post was edited on 12/30 at 6:01 pm
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Hoodoo Man  LSU Fan Sunshine Pumping most days. Member since Oct 2011 9301 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:35 pm to Aintsaloser)
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world class speed on defense. defense wins championships. Game is won on the offensive and defensive lines and also with speed not by a Breesus. Breesus didn't do shite. I would put the fastest defense in the world on there: no way they could lose.
That's the logical conclusion this awful thread has taken.
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Slapouttiger  LSU Fan alabama Member since Jun 2011 1703 posts
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| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:38 pm to Aintsaloser)
Man you want to get rid of brees I know you can't be serious
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BigBrod81  LSU Fan Houma Member since Sep 2010 1105 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:40 pm to Aintsaloser)
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world class speed on defense. defense wins championships. Game is won on the offensive and defensive lines and also with speed not by a Breesus. Breesus didn't do shite. I would put the fastest defense in the world on there: no way they could lose.
Man, the admins need to invest in some "tard be gone" especially on Sunday afternoons in the fall & winter.
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lsutiger2010  LSU Fan B.R. Member since Aug 2008 806 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 6:45 pm to Champagne)
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In what area of franchise building have they failed? Defense.
Yes, the defense has been bad. But you act like they are blatantly not working on the defense. We picked up a very good coordinator in Spags. We have been spending all our first round draft picks recently on defense with the exception of Ingram. We have gone after big names in free agency in the last several years, i.e. Lofton, Sharper, etc. Just because it's not happening doesn't mean they're not trying. There are 20 teams that don't make it the playoffs each year. Are all of these teams not trying? The right pieces have to fall in place and it just hasn't happened for us yet to get a great defense.
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 8049 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:32 am to lsutiger2010)
Sir. The Standard is Excellence. Excuses? No, Sir. Save them for a child who fails. Children need excuses. Professionals don't need excuses because excuses are merely a nice explanation for why you failed to attain Excellence. Accept no substitute for Excellence. Excellence in all phases of the game at all times. This is the Standard.
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supatigah  LSU Fan Sheriff of Banned Town Member since Mar 2004 63223 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:45 am to Champagne)
You keep talking about the HC the same HC we haven't had since last March and won't have until next march He hired spags, change takes time The fact they went 7-9 without a HC is amazing
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Fox Mulder  Tulane Fan Uptown Member since Dec 2010 13019 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:48 am to Champagne)
This is a bad thread
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efrad  New Orleans Saints Fan Baton Rouge Member since Nov 2007 7404 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 1:19 am to bomber77)
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Uh, we, Cleveland, have 8 titles. Thanks for the mention though.
I specifically said NFL titles. The Browns' AAFL titles are not recognized by the NFL.
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goatmilker  New Orleans Saints Fan Proudville USA Member since Feb 2009 9500 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:30 am to Champagne)
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'm talking about a franchise that can sustain a solid decade of excellence. THAT is what a superior NFL franchise does. When the Saints do that...then blah blah blah
So our record since 2006 69-43 Saints made playoffs 4 of the 6 years CSP was on sideline. 3 Div champ 2 NFC champ app 1 SB title. Your a troll or a complete idiot if this does not please you. Join the cowboy fan base. They like you already
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Accept no substitute for Excellence. Excellence in all phases of the game at all times. This is the Standard.
Using this I conclude your thread comes up short. 
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 8049 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:51 am to goatmilker)
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Using this I conclude your thread comes up short.
If you believe that the Saints currently meet the Standard of Excellence, then, I'm happy for you. I don't think that Coach Payton would agree with you, nor is he as satisfied as are you. Excellence. Accept no substitutes. Every season. Every game. Every down.
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goatmilker  New Orleans Saints Fan Proudville USA Member since Feb 2009 9500 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 10:56 am to Champagne)
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If you believe that the Saints currently meet the
Good God man we sucked this year in many phases of the game. You think you just discovered this? Get over your self. But to say this is a bad/medocre org. is one of the most idiotic things I will ever read here. Its like a Rex poli thread.
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Paul Allen  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Nov 2007 19640 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 11:56 am to St Augustine)
The truth hurts
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jdg91878  New Orleans Saints Fan Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC Member since Oct 2010 3739 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 1:37 pm to Champagne)
WTF! Most great teams have a great QB and HC and a lot of teams have neither. Be grateful you idiot.
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 8049 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 2:03 pm to jdg91878)
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Be grateful you idiot.
I'm happy for you that you are grateful. I am also grateful. However, the Standard is not "Gratefulness", or, the state of being grateful. Saints fans were grateful in 1967. Today, the Standard is Excellence. Accept no substitutes. Every decade. Every season. Every game. Every down. Excellence.
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goatmilker  New Orleans Saints Fan Proudville USA Member since Feb 2009 9500 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 3:49 pm to Champagne)
Then you will be forever disapointed.
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Champagne  New Orleans Saints Fan French and Spanish Empire Border Member since Oct 2007 8049 posts

| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:10 pm to goatmilker)
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Then you will be forever disapointed.
You will not be disappointed "forever" when you have but one Standard, and you accept nothing less than attainment of the Standard. Only losers talk like you. LOSERS. Just like those who were half-stepping and dogging it are Losers, and are soon to be cleaning out their lockers.
This post was edited on 12/31 at 4:12 pm
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