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St Augustine 
New Orleans Saints Fan
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Member since Mar 2006
36572 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 10:56 pm to SabiDojo)
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This is the problem. Deangelo Williams finished the season with 152 attempts, ranking 26th in the league among RB's. Jonathan Stewart finished with 93 attempts (both finished about 3.5/3.6 yards per rush). Carolina just didn't have a legitimate running threat outside of Cam. That makes a huge difference.
well they are both making bank for their efforts
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castorinho 
Oklahoma Fan
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 10:59 pm to diddydirtyAubie)
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siliconvalleytiger 
LSU Fan
Northern California
Member since Apr 2004
19914 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:00 pm to St Augustine)
RG3 is the better passer situationally. You can count on a pass play from him while Cam is less reliable when a play is needed.
This is also reflected in the results.
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Ortho Reb 
Ole Miss Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2011
7354 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:04 pm to redfieldk717)
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Elleshoe
Is he banned?
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AMM AU9893 
Auburn Fan
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
10799 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:04 pm to hg)
Gotta love the Cam hate
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hg 
Toledo Fan
Member since Jun 2009
53194 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:11 pm to AMM AU9893)
RG3 is better IMO
How is that hate?
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SabiDojo 
South Alabama Fan
Open to any suggestions
Member since Nov 2010
9540 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:13 pm to hg)
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RG3 is better IMO
How is that hate?
That's not hate, but I do think saying "RGIII has the intangibles" is a serious cop-out. Saying this just means you like RGIII over Cam for some reason other than on-field performance.
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TH03 
Notre Dame Fan
Barves Fan
Member since Dec 2008
46001 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:50 pm to SabiDojo)
Because he acts like a leader, Cam does not. Hence, the intangibles, things you can't measure by a stat.
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RogerTheShrubber
LSU Fan
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
72094 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:51 pm to SabiDojo)
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That's not hate, but I do think saying "RGIII has the intangibles" is a serious cop-out
Not really. His football IQ and leadership skills appear to be superior.
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Ross
Auburn Fan
Auburn
Member since Oct 2007
30329 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:51 pm to TH03)
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Cam Newton. 2 seasons.
Playoff appearances 0
Division Titles 0
RGIII. 1 season
Playoff appearances 1
Division titles 1
People bring up team accomplishments as the end all be all in every single QB debate that has ever existed and it is always a horrible way to analyze performance.
The quarterback is one player on an offense that has eleven people on the field at any point in time. The defense that a team has also fields eleven different people at any given time, as does the special teams units.
Judging a QB on how the team performs is only useful when taken in proper context, and the general "oh well this team is better so that QB must be better than this other QB whose team didn't fare so well" argument is usually beyond retarded.
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Ross
Auburn Fan
Auburn
Member since Oct 2007
30329 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:52 pm to St Augustine)
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well they are both making bank for their efforts
They are, by the largest margin imaginable, the most overpaid RB unit in the NFL when you look at the results.
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AMM AU9893
Auburn Fan
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
10799 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:00 am to hg)
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RG3 is better IMO
How is that hate?
He's better than alot of QBs. And of course you compare to Cam 
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AllBamaDoesIsWin 
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
9577 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:24 am to hg)
RGIII is just a beast.
258/393 (66%) 3280 yards passing, 20 TDs and 5 Interceptions. Passer rating of 103.22
120 rushes for 812 yards and 7 TDs.
4092 Total yards as a Rookie and 27 total TDs with only 5 INTs.
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GynoSandberg 
Clemson Fan
Member since Jan 2006
26655 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:33 am to Ross)
Williams and Stewart are 2 very good RBs. It just so happens their OL is dog shite and the team that paid them a lot of money aren't committed to giving them the ball. Which is stupid considering they could work well with Cam if CAR implanted a similar offense to WAS where Cam isn't throwing it 500 times a season
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RedMustang
Auburn Fan
Member since Oct 2011
2631 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:38 am to hg)
Hard to compare when you look at one single year. There are 45 other guys responsible for a team's success. Get back to me in 15 years and we'll see how they compare. If the two teams switch divisions, they also likely switch results.
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dawgdayafternoon 
Georgia Fan
Member since Jul 2011
9192 posts
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| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 12:44 am to RedMustang)
I was more impressed with Cam's play against the Falcons than I was with RG the Third's.
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Sophandros
New Orleans Saints Fan
R'Lyeh
Member since Feb 2005
40297 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 6:45 am to SabiDojo)
Plus Cam has played tougher schedules while having a terrible defense.
That said, if I were starting a team today and had to pick between Cam and RG3 as my QB, I'd probably flip a coin.
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Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
14000 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 6:57 am to dawgdayafternoon)
I think they're about equal. RGIII has a much better running game and coaching staff to work with while Cam has a better receiving corps and defense to support him. Shanahan is the difference though. Coaching means everything in the NFL and Shanahan's a far better coach than Rivera right now. Brian Griese, Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler all went to the Pro Bowl with Shanahan as their coach and none of those QBs have been anywhere near as good without him. The man's a brilliant offensive mind.
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TT9
Alabama Fan
Global Warning
Member since Sep 2008
44848 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 7:12 am to Sophandros)
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How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton?
a lot, attitude goes a long way.
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WicKed WayZ
New Orleans Saints Fan
Meridian, MS
Member since Sep 2011
3987 posts
| re: How much better is RGIII compared to Cam Newton? (Posted on 12/31/12 at 7:26 am to hg)
RG3 is better, can't stand either one honestly. I liked RG3 in college but now they hype and dick sucking has made me sick.
Never liked Cam.
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