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StarSaint 
LA-Lafayette Fan
lafayette
Member since Nov 2006
2335 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:31 pm to Hoodoo Man)
what a crappy thread.
How good would NE be without Brady and Belichick? Those two men seemed to have changed that franchise too. Where's the NE is a mediocre franchise thread? They were pretty bad for a number of years too...
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SouljaBreauxTellEm 
LSU Fan
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
20619 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:31 pm to Supernova)
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Also I want to add. Brees has been shite this season. Not all the blame goes on the defense.
the entire team has been a let down.
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THRILLHO 
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2006
25416 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:31 pm to eyeran)
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And bottom 3 on defense during that same period.
Again:
2006: 11th in yards per game, 13th in ppg
2007: 26th yards per game, 25th ppg
2008: 23rd in yards per game, 26 in ppg
2009: 25th in ypg, 20th in ppg, 2nd in turnovers forced and scored a shitload of TDs
2010: 4th in yards per game, 7th in ppg, offense sucked
2011: 24th in yards per game, 13th in ppg, played well enough to win 13 games
So you have one terrible defense this year, two bad ones in 2007/2008, an average one in 2011, good one in 2006, and very good ones in 2009 and 2010. Methinks some of you have very short memories.
This post was edited on 12/30 at 3:33 pm
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craigbiggio
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2420 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:32 pm to Supernova)
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Also I want to add. Brees has been shite this season. Not all the blame goes on the defense.
This. Defense actually played well in the SF and Atl losses. Turnovers cost us those games.
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SouljaBreauxTellEm
LSU Fan
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
20619 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:32 pm to Champagne)
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When the Owner and FO can admit this and commit to doing something about it, we will be on the road to excellence.
You are such a fricking dumbass. No other NFL team had more victories than the saints since Payton era. None. Not one.. heading into this season..
Sorry Bounty gate BS was a bit much to overcome for a season.
This post was edited on 12/30 at 3:35 pm
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Slapouttiger
LSU Fan
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
1675 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:34 pm to Hoodoo Man)
Bottom line is get Brees some help ASAP before he gets any older. Running game has to improve and Defense needs 4 or 5 néw starters that are gang busters
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RealityTiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2010
8671 posts
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| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:35 pm to Champagne)
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This is a bad thread and a retard came up with the commentary.
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Hoodoo Man
LSU Fan
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
8942 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:35 pm to Slapouttiger)
No shite the team needs help.
That doesn't mean the OP is right.
Or anywhere close to right.
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bomber77 
Ohio State Fan
Mississippi by way of Cleveland, OH
Member since Aug 2008
14414 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:35 pm to Champagne)
I disagree somewhat.
This is a poor team this year but a solid franchise moving forward .
You way overrate the Saints history before Payton/Brees.
It was a horrific team with a dismal history. The Saints were voted at one time the worst professional team of any kind in history. The franchise was close to crumbling and could have easily moved.
Today's operation is worlds better.
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Carson123987
LSU Fan
Middle Court at The Rec
Member since Jul 2011
23252 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:36 pm to Champagne)
dude shut the frick up
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THRILLHO
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2006
25416 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:37 pm to Slapouttiger)
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Running game has to improve
Running game is fine. 11th in yards per carry with 6 of the teams ahead of us having mobile QBs. The coaches just need to call more running plays.
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Slapouttiger
LSU Fan
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
1675 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:37 pm to Hoodoo Man)
In talking about the present day, and going forward
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eyeran
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
15118 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:37 pm to THRILLHO)
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2010. Methinks some of you have very short memories
Methinks you're kidding yourself if you think the defense that showed up in Seattle wasn't awful. The only good defense we've had was the 2006 crew. In 2009, Sharper covered up the garbage we had before him and now after him
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beauchristopher
LSU Fan
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
14987 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:39 pm to Champagne)
Hey Champagne.
Name me one other team or coach with more wins than Payton in the same time span.
I'll hang up and listen.
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St Augustine
New Orleans Saints Fan
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
36573 posts
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| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:39 pm to eyeran)
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You simply can't watch Saints this year, or the past 7 years for that matter, and decide offense is where the problems are
There were most definitel problems this season. Defense was a bigger issue but we lost multiple games due to offensive issues this season. Protection early on, wide receivers failing to get separation , and the brees pick festival.
I'd definitely put the 2nd falcons game and 9ers game strictly on the offense.
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eyeran
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
15118 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:42 pm to St Augustine)
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I'd definitely put the 2nd falcons game and 9ers game strictly on the offense.
Absolutely.
But we're talking bad games on offense vs years of terrible defense
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THRILLHO
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2006
25416 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:42 pm to eyeran)
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Methinks you're kidding yourself if you think the defense that showed up in Seattle wasn't awful.
They played well for the most part that entire season and kept us in games when Brees decided to frick around (though he was probably injured). Yes, they had a bad game at the worst possible time, but that doesn't change the fact that they had a good season.
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TigerBait2008
LSU Fan
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
10195 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:42 pm to Champagne)
you are a dumb frick. That simple
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Slapouttiger
LSU Fan
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
1675 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:42 pm to THRILLHO)
That's true but we need to run consistently which isn't happening. Impose our will so to speak. One long run today was about it.
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motorbreath
New Orleans Saints Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2004
3241 posts
| re: This is a bad football team and a mediocre franchise. (Posted on 12/30/12 at 3:45 pm to St Augustine)
The biggest issue this year was not having Payton. Getting him back will fix most but not all the problems.
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