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TN Bhoy 
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:11 pm to mograyback)
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Actually it kind of was about the revolution, just not directly. Just as Zhivago wasn't directly about the Russian Revolution, but was a tremendous insight into it.
Except that it's not. Les Mis is about the redemptive power of love. The revolution is a setting.
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REG861 
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:13 pm to ProjectP2294)
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Was the French Revolution a good thing?
Not really at the time, IMO. It was mob rule. While there were prominent proponents of democracy at the time, the ideals of the revolution such as equality and citizenry were just hijacked by a bunch of rabid idiots like Robespierre and the average person was no more than a common rioter mindlessly wanting blood. It's long term importance is much more profound than it was at the time of the revolution, since the Revolution was an abject failure in the short-term and resulted in a firmer autocracy than under Louis XVI. I think one overlooked importance of the French Revolution is that it's indicative of how revolutions tend to eat their young, if you will
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mograyback 
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:14 pm to TN Bhoy)
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I teach college.
Cool.
This makes your comment from yesterday "you don't know who I am" even more hilarious.
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TN Bhoy
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:15 pm to mograyback)
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This makes your comment from yesterday "you don't know who I am" even more hilarious.
Except that that was talking about something else, your ignorance of my history on this board.
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mograyback
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:16 pm to TN Bhoy)
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Except that it's not. Les Mis is about the redemptive power of love. The revolution is a setting.
Haha, wow. Which is why I said it's like Zhivago. Which wasn't directly about the Russian Revolution, but an insight into it. Thanks for playing.
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TN Bhoy
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:18 pm to mograyback)
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Haha, wow. Which is why I said it's like Zhivago. Which wasn't directly about the Russian Revolution, but an insight into it. Thanks for playing.
OK, what "insight" into the 1789 French Revolution did you get from Les Mis, being that the revolutionary setting is the June Rebellion?
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goatmilker 
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:22 pm to PenguinNinja)
Old school > new school.
At least to the old schoolers.
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SoulGlo 
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:27 pm to PenguinNinja)
Because theyve been more socialist.
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Zach
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:36 pm to SoulGlo)
Because the French Revolution had a tennis court. The US didn't even have a baseball field.
the tennis court
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Vegas Bengal
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:44 pm to TN Bhoy)
OK French Restoration up to the July Revolution and June Rebellion which were after the Revolution and was part of the continued upheaval of French rule.
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Vegas Bengal
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 4:50 pm to TN Bhoy)
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Except that it's not. Les Mis is about the redemptive power of love. The revolution is a setting.
Examining the nature of law and grace, the novel elaborates upon the history of France, the architecture and urban design of Paris, politics, moral philosophy, antimonarchism, justice, religion, and the types and nature of romantic and familial love. -Wiki
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jiggy0
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:00 pm to TN Bhoy)
The French Revolution is not the setting for Les Miserables.
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Vegas Bengal
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:03 pm to TN Bhoy)
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OK, what "insight" into the 1789 French Revolution did you get from Les Mis, being that the revolutionary setting is the June Rebellion?
The setting spans 17 years from 1815-1832 and the poverty, anti-monarchy, rebellion and and plight of the lower classes are very much in tune with the French Revolutionary period. The reason why the French Revolution really doesn't compare with our own in part is because the periods that followed were more of the same with just different bastards playing essentially the same role. If you were amongst the underprivileged in France in 1815, you were really no different than you were in 1789 or 1832.... Which was the "insight" to use your word.
And anyway I was being facetious in my OP and my real point as I also stated, was the premise of this thread is incorrect.
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:47 pm to PenguinNinja)
because it used means the radical left finds perfectly acceptable.
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MaroonWhite 
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
It was a bloodbath where thousands of innocent people were executed by the government.
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CITWTT
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:14 pm to mograyback)
You are at best 22 yrs old, but you have been blessed with divine knowledge, and know all the answers for the final exams. Go back to your U of Misery board, you fit in better with your intellectual equals.
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mograyback
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:47 pm to CITWTT)
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You are at best 22 yrs old, but you have been blessed with divine knowledge, and know all the answers for the final exams. Go back to your U of Misery board, you fit in better with your intellectual equals.
I wish I was still 22.
All I said in this thread was Les Mis is similar to Zhivago. While not directly about the revolution, you get a little glimpse into it through the story. Not sure how that makes me seem like I'm blessed with divine knowledge.. you seem oddly upset for no reason.
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TigerPride10 
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 8:19 pm to TN Bhoy)
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No, it ranks as one of the worst events in world history.
The ideals that started it, or the course of events of events that followed? I have a feeling I know which one you will choose, and you know I will disagree.
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Sid in Lakeshore
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:02 pm to TigerPride10)
Thankfully the French Revolution occured......and paved the way for our little insurrection.
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SammyTiger
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| re: Why does the French Revolution get more credit towards the global advancement... (Posted on 12/28/12 at 9:06 pm to Sid in Lakeshore)
Considering the French revolution built off of the American on, I would say the original premise is completely false.
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