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i grew up on this soundtrack. it influenced and changed my childhood. nothing brings back more nostalgia than les mis, james taylor, and aaron neville. you'll love it. pay more attention to the story line and plot than the actual singing/songs. EXCEPT eponine's song.... on my own and and one day more. oh god.... on my own was my fricking anthem for years.





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Colm Wilkinson plays the Bishop.
i looooooved that.






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Alfie Boe should have played Valjean. Jackman's singing of "Bring Him Home" was cringeworthy.


Would you stop with this shit? Hollywood isn't going to sink millions into a production for it to be headlined by Alfie fricking Boe.
If the singing is most important to you, enjoy the great stage performances already released. With the way the movie was made, did you really expect the singing to be on par with the 25th anniversary show? I'm sure Jackman would sound much better standing still at a mic only having to focus on that one aspect.






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a. i, personally, thought anne was amazing. my mother did not. she said that anne was too cry-y.


my so and i tend to agree more with your mother. we saw it this afternoon in a packed theater (only because the time Django Unchained started was too late or too early ) and it was good, not amazing. I know that a movie like this, being released at christmas time is meant for award season and because of that, you will expect to see many big names. However, finding big names with singing talent proves difficult and the film suffered a bit because of it.

Hugh Jackman was really really good. Russel Crowe... not so much. I really couldn't take much more of it and was ready for him to die about an hour into it.

Hathaway was really good, but i had seen "i dreamed a dream" leaked before so it wasn't new to me. Amanda Seifred (sp) as Cosette (and the little girl playing a young Cosette) was fabulous. I don't know if she is up for supporting actress as well, but i think she deserves it over Hathaway.

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d. marius was gorgeous and sang like a lark. i found him to be believable and fantastic.


aside from the georgous comment... i completely agree with you. My SO was a little confused how they fell in love so fast, and that took away a bit of the love story from her.

I think Sasha Baron Cohen stole the scene every time he was on the screen. He is hillarous and singing is good. I can't wait for him to play Freddy Mercury.

The Settings, graphics, CGI were all top notch! I expect this film is a lock at the oscars for best Score, Graphics, and Effects.

i give it 7/10. Good adaptation of a classic. Don't regret seeing it in theatres, but i wouldn't have minded waiting till redbox.






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No. I'm not a homo.










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d. marius was gorgeous and sang like a lark. i found him to be believable and fantastic.









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Would you stop with this shit? Hollywood isn't going to sink millions into a production for it to be headlined by Alfie fricking Boe.



That's why they cast Hathaway and had her in the first trailer. She's the one with the massive Oscar buzz, not Jackman (who is up for an Oscar). They could always have cast Jackman as Javert and gone a different way with the story, which might have gotten them BP.

And they did call Boe in for an audition and the guys doing the music work (composer, sound technicians, etc.) lobbied for Boe over Jackman, so it's not completely out of the question.

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If the singing is most important to you


It's not the most important to me, but it is a musical. And I know with how the movie was made that it was never going to be on par with the stage version as far as the singing goes, but I'm a purist. If you're going to make a musical, you make sure the people you cast who get the big songs can sing those songs. And they did this for the most part (see Hathaway, Barks, Redmayne). With Jackman and, to a lesser extent, Crowe, they went away from this to sell tickets, and I hope this costs them the Best Picture.






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I saw it tonight with the lady friend and I thought it was really good. I've never seen the musical, so I can't compare it to the original stage production, but I found that it was overall close to the book, which I liked. I really thought Jackman did a great job, and while Crowe wasn't that great, his role grew on me a bit. By the way, I thought the ending was fantastic!





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Went tonight. First off I'm a huge Les Mis fan. I've seen it twice on Broadway and once in London. Overall I really enjoyed it, but some of this singing was just distracting.

Russell Crowe was just not a good singer. Terrible tone. It's clear that Hugh Jackman is a very capable singer and great actor, but his voice just did not fit Valjean. Bring Him Home was especially off, as that's usually the emotional high point of the stage musical. His emotions throughout did make up for his vocal performance to some extent though.

Other than that I thought it was solid. Probably the least douchiest Marius I've seen, which I guess isn't saying much because I've always hated the character. Seyfried was a pleasant surprise and Hathaway lived up to the hype. Eponine was fantastic and as always hotter and more interesting that Cosette, which is the biggest flaw w/ the stage musical too.

Anyway if anyone here liked the movie but hasn't seen the musical, do yourself a favor and see it on Broadway w/ real singers and it will blow your mind.






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Minority opinion, here.

I did not grow up with the soundtrack. I did not see the television specials. I have not seen the thing on Broadway. Essentially, I am someone who was in the dark about what would happen and how the story would end.

I read all of the pre-movie hype and thought that I'd be entertained by the movie. I can deal with musicals. However, this could more accurately be characterized as an opera. Every word was sung, which often made things hard to understand. Also, there were too many multi-versed arias performed at times when the actor/actress could simply have conveyed his/her thoughts in one or two sentences and we could have moved on to another scene. I felt that this caused the movie to drag at too many places.

Frankly, I did not find that the music was all that magnificent. There were several duds.

I'm not touching the story - realizing that someone had to condense a thick book into a 2.5 hour movie and that some corners would have to be cut. But, had I not known that, I would have declared it ridiculous.

One last thing. I hated the characters played by Sascha Cohen and Helen Bonham Carter. What were they? Comic relief?

I'm glad that I saw the movie. I feel more cultured now. I would not be surprised if it won a bunch of Academy awards. However, I did not like it. (That doesn't make me a bad person.)






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Saw today.

What movie lacks in the live orchestration, it more than makes up in it's depiction of 19th century dentistry.

Homo's??? Really???






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The movie really started to struggle once they got to Lamarque's funeral and the Paris Uprising. I have long thought Les Miserables to be an overrated musical with quite a few songs being straight up duds. The second act of the play is full of them. I enjoyed the singing of Jackman, Hathaway, Barks and most of the rest of the cast. Crowe was tolerable as a singer, I don't really get all the hate. He's most definitely the weakest link in the cast as far as singing goes, but he didn't do a terrible job. The story was top notch but the film was weighted down with music that really isn't all that good.

Final Grade: B. The first act is amazing but the last half of the film drags the overall quality down a bit.



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I did not grow up with the soundtrack. I did not see the television specials. I have not seen the thing on Broadway. Essentially, I am someone who was in the dark about what would happen and how the story would end.



Thank me later

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I can deal with musicals. However, this could more accurately be characterized as an opera


Probably, but this is pretty standard for a stage musical.

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Every word was sung, which often made things hard to understand


Understandable. Part of it was because of the way it was sung, though.

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Frankly, I did not find that the music was all that magnificent


Once again, this was due to how it was sung in the movie.

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There were several duds.



Could you name them? Or at least who sung them? I'm genuinely curious.

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I'm not touching the story - realizing that someone had to condense a thick book into a 2.5 hour movie and that some corners would have to be cut. But, had I not known that, I would have declared it ridiculous.



Not necessarily ridiculous, but sped up. You also probably missed some story elements through not understanding the singing. Also, the story itself isn't the most important thing. The main plot is:

1. Valjean was put in prison for stealing bread and breaking a window. After trying to escape, his sentence was extended to 19 years.
2. At the start, he's released on parole.
3. After being turned away by everybody, the bishop lets him stay the night. Valjean steals from the bishop, but the bishop pardons him, "buying his soul for God"
4. Valjean remakes himself into a businessman in a backwater town.
5. Fantine, one of Valjean's workers, is fired unjustly (or not). This occurs at the same time Inspector Javert has been sent from Paris to help out Valjean.
6. Fantine's arrested, Valjean learns that he was the "cause," causing him to want to atone for this by helping her and her daughter.
7. Javert tricks Valjean into revealing himself as a parole violator. Valjean eludes him and makes his way to Paris, after freeing Cosette (Fantine's daughter) from servitude.
8. Valjean once again remakes himself as a businessman connected to a Parisian convent.
9. A bunch of idealistic university students decide to start a revolution. They stupidly decide to use the death of their only protector as their signal to rebel.
10. Cosette and Marius fall in love for no good reason. Eponine, the pretty girl (always portrayed by an actress prettier than the Cosette actress), decides to help Marius get together with Cosette depite being in love with Marius.
11. Valjean learns of Marius' love for Cosette and decides to act as his protector during the rebellion.
12. Javert goes undercover and is captured by the university students. After Valjean saves the revolutionary leader, he's given control over Javert.
13. Valjean frees Javert. All the university students but Marius die horribly.
14. Valjean saves Marius by dragging him through the sewers. Javert meets Valjean in the sewers. Javert's worldview is rocked when he learns that Valjean, a criminal, is a good man. Javert kills himself.
15. Valjean sets Marius up with Cosette. He goes into hiding again.
16. Marius learns of Valjean's heroic deeds and reunites Cosette with Valjean.
17. His redemption complete, Valjean dies and goes to heaven.


The whole revolution thing is basically just a background.
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One last thing. I hated the characters played by Sascha Cohen and Helen Bonham Carter. What were they? Comic relief?



Yes. Works better on the stage.



I'll post a thorough review soon.

ETA: I'm not nuts, this is just the only musical that I really, really like. I can barely tolerate most other musicals. I think every copy of PotO should be burned.



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Saw it last night with my girl. I thought it was a decent adaptation. She absolutely loved it. Agree that Anne certainly lived up to the hype .. she was fantastic. Her one-take I Dream A Dream was a phenomenal piece of cinema.

I'm in the anti-Crowe camp .. he just didn't bring the umph that that character needed and obviously he doesn't have the strongest voice. They should have gotten Gerard Butler into that role.

It really came through that they recorded every song as it was shot and let the actors' voices really come through for what they were. I liked that. Many modern musicals have too much sound mixing and re-recording it doesn't come off as very organic, as if you're watching a live performance.

Overall I'd give the film a B+ .. direction and production values were great just didn't have any special elements that left me longing to witness something again.

Oh, and the Sacha Baron Cohen/Helena Bonham Carter duo, while a nice performance, felt really recycled. Should have left them back at Sweeney Todd.



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Eponine, the pretty girl (always portrayed by an actress prettier than the Cosette actress)


I've never noticed that, thanks for pointing it out!






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didn't have any special elements that left me longing to witness something again.


then there was the Paris sewer,a special element that I didn't long to see again...

Gave a new meaning to "deep deep do do"..



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the music side of me enjoys the music of the stage versions and actually the full version you find on iTunes. But they did a very good job in this. I thought the movie started alittle weak, crowe's singing was weak in his first feature in the bishops house or church wasn't that good went away from singing. Also bring him home was weak too I don't think crowe has a confident high voice he can it but he doesn't hit the high notes which is key in that song. Everything else was great.

I'm surprised how little they changed as well, a couple of cuts in music but they didn't really change the music at all. At-least the orchestra parts.

I give this a 9/10






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The dude playing Marius was so gay





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Saw it last night and it was amazing. I read where Anne Hathaway did the I dreamed a dreamed song in one take. and everyone has been saying Russell Crowe was bad. I think he did well. There is a big difference between theatre singing and film singing and he gave Javert a certain roughness about him. I think it played well. Overall I give it a A-.






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As many of you may have figured out, I’m a massive fan of Les Mis. Why? Probably the blatant Catholicity of the story. It doesn’t hurt that I enjoy the vast majority of the songs. Many of you also know of my opinions about the singing, so I’ll put them last in this review.

Set Design, Costumes, etc.: The costumes were quite good. The cast and feel of the movie definitely oozed the “miserableness” of the situation. There were a few problems I had with the set design. They blatantly looked like backdrops in a number of instances (all Javert songs, for instance). Perhaps this was done to give it a “stage” feel, but it just didn’t work. It wasn’t constant, but it did take away from being “in” the film, and, IMO, this is one of the reasons that critics have disliked Crowe’s performance. Also, the barricade didn’t really work as a barricade. That was made worse with the pull-back into the sky showing the rest of the area. A place that was shown to be very open earlier in the film is then shown to be maze-like and closed in.

So I’m giving this section a 7.5.

Story: I love the story and the film stuck mainly to it. The few deviations, however, seemed completely unnecessary. Why, for instance, was Gavroche the one who gave the letter to Valjean? Personally, I feel that Eponine’s death becomes that much more pitiful when she dies helping Marius get with Cosette than her dying trying to save Marius. Maybe that’s just me, I don’t know. For those whining about the story itself (laid out for you by me early on page 2), GFY.

So I’m giving the story a 9.

Editing: I might be the most annoying person to see movies with because I immediately notice every editing and continuity error. I already noted one in the set design. Elsewhere, during Javert’s “Stars” song, the sky goes from cloudy to perfectly clear with a ton of stars back to cloudy in the space of one cut. During Eponine’s death, the rain appears to only be falling on Eponine. This is even more clear when you notice that many of the clothes look dry during the attack scene right before her being shot. The editor also fricked up big time on the scene of Valjean praying/debating in the bishop’s chapel. He walks down a hall and ends up back where he started. I also don’t know why you cut a good portion of “A Little Fall of Rain.” Doesn’t make sense to me. Of course, most of the film was pretty good on the editing count.

So I’m giving the editing a 7.5.

Acting:

Anne Hathaway elicited a response of “I’ve never seen someone look so miserable” from one of the people sitting near me. I understand why she’s getting talk for an Oscar.

Eddie Redmayne did as well as you could ask for Marius. Having never seen him in anything else, his performance was a very pleasant surprise.

Russell Crowe has gotten a bad rap in the reviews. He might not be the best singer in the world (I’ll get to that in a second), but he’s one of the few people who actually “gets” Javert. He acted it perfectly. And I watch Javert closely because he’s the character I most identify with (shocking, huh?). It’s not his fault that the fricking background detracts from almost all of his scenes. If you see this movie a second time, specifically watch Crowe’s acting.

SBC and HBC were sufficiently slimy. The problem is that there part works much better on the stage. A bunch of “comic relief” moments aren’t needed in a feature film like this.

Amanda Seyfried was passable. I hate the character of Cosette and I hate Seyfried, so…

Samantha Barks deserves an Oscar nomination. frick all the people attacking her for being a stage actress. She was fricking flawless. The Oscars should shut down if she doesn’t get a nomination. Anyone who says differently can find me most weekends at Fado on 15th in Center City Philadelphia.

Hugh Jackman’s performance was mixed. He did much better in the second act than he did in the first (except in the confrontation with Javert at the café). He’ll be nominated for Best Actor due to hype and money, but he doesn’t deserve the nomination for his acting. And taking away his shirtless scene takes away the only good reason for keeping Alfie Boe out of the film. frick you directors and producers, frick you.

The kids who played Gavroche and young Cosette were excellent for children. Especially Gavroche.

I give the acting a 9.

Singing: And now we get to what you were dreading. First, I completely understand how they recorded it. This does not excuse certain people because most of the actors, when they were singing sounded perfectly fine. Second, frick you if you don’t like the music in this (except for the worthless older Cosette shit).

Anne Hathaway did a brilliant job with her singing. Sounded studio quality and you could feel the acting in the singing. She should do Broadway.

Eddie Redmayne didn’t suck as Marius, which is shocking, because he’s difficult, especially when put up against Michael Ball. But Redmayne’s version of “Empty Chairs and Empty Tables” was sung very well and was powerful.

SBC and HBC were what they were.

Amanda Seyfried is a fricking squeak toy. No, an ugly, fricking squeak toy. Get out of this film Seyfried.

Samantha Barks was perfect. Eponine’s got two of the “big” songs in the film and she nailed them. Her drowning out of Seyfried was glorious. Of course, she’s a stage actress. Not shocked. My comments above in the acting category stand here.

Russell Crowe is not a great singer, but he’s passable. Javert, however, isn’t necessarily supposed to be a great singer. He’s supposed to convey Javert, and he did that well enough. If he wasn’t going against people like Hathaway, Barks, and Redmayne, nobody would have a problem with him.

The girl I saw this with described Jackman’s singing on a number of songs as “a cat whose tail got stepped on.” Not good. And he’s got THE SONG in the film. And he fricked it up.

“One Day More” was enjoyable, although I wish that Javert’s full lyrics were used. “Drink With Me” is annoying and was a perfect candidate to be axed. But no, they cut parts of “A Little Fall of Rain.” BOOOOOOO. Colm Wilkinson was Colm Wilkinson. The concluding song was great.

I give the singing an 8.5.

Overall: I really liked it, but I would changed some of the editing and two cast members (bye Jackman and Seyfried).

The film overall gets an 8.






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