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CaptainBrannigan 
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| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:20 pm to slackhouse)
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Auburn fans, how do you feel about this?
Makes me want to drink bleach. We could go get the best of the best, yet we settle because our AD is a goddamn retard.
Malzahn is 8-4 coach at best.
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lowspark12
Auburn Fan
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
7886 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:24 pm to CaptainBrannigan)
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Makes me want to drink bleach.
on behalf of auburn fans everywhere... bye all means, have at it.
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slackhouse 
USA Fan
Member since Aug 2005
15244 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:32 pm to Doldil)
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oh there's a point... it starts with Troll and ends with ing.
i'm not trolling at all. I seriously want to know how Auburn feels about "keeping it in the family" with their coaching hires while teams like LSU, Bama, and Arkansas go hire who they think the best coach available is. It is a valid question.
You've now hired two coaches in a row who haven't proven they can win as HC in a BCS conference. And, it appears that one of the large contributing factors to them being hired is their ties to Auburn.
Would you rather a coach with a winning BCS coaching record, or a coach with Auburn ties with a resume that includes zero games as a HC at a BCS school, or a coach with Auburn ties who was a disaster at the only BCS HC job he ever held?
Maybe I'm out there, but I think that Auburn is way too good of a football job to have made the last two hires they've made.
ETA: IMO, you are making hires that Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Mississippi State make, instead of making a big boy hire.
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piggidyphish
Auburn Fan
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
9548 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:38 pm to slackhouse)
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Would you rather a coach with a winning BCS coaching record
Typically these guys aren't lining up for new jobs.
Quit moving the goalpost.
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Doldil
Auburn Fan
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Member since Jan 2010
2593 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:58 pm to slackhouse)
I think you should be asking why Jay Jacobs is a retard. All we as fans can do is moan and groan and eventually support the new head coach because bitching about it does nothing.
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WDE85
Auburn Fan
Member since Nov 2012
1469 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 1:58 pm to slackhouse)
Right now, our main goal isn't beating Saban. It's getting back to the top of the SEC West. It's been lonely down here. 
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slackhouse
USA Fan
Member since Aug 2005
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| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:18 pm to piggidyphish)
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Typically these guys aren't lining up for new jobs
Only if your school is equal to Kentucky or Vandy. You mean to tell me that Auburn isn't at a level that they couldn't poach a winning coach that is at some lower level BCS school? Do you really accept that Auburn isn't on the same level as Alabama, LSU, and even Arkansas?
You aren't Ole Miss, and you're AD needs to stop hiring football coaches like you are.
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slackhouse
USA Fan
Member since Aug 2005
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| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:19 pm to WDE85)
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main goal isn't beating Saban
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getting back to the top of the SEC West
you aren't doing the second without doing the first.
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blzr
Auburn Fan
Suck my dick.... be gone
Member since Mar 2011
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| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:24 pm to slackhouse)
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You've now hired two coaches in a row who haven't proven they can win as HC in a BCS conference.
Did Miles do this?
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bigpapamac 
South Alabama Fan
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
14258 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:31 pm to blzr)
Yea I think Les was right around a .500 coach at Ok St, so not really. He beat OU a couple of times to put himself on the map.
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piggidyphish
Auburn Fan
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
9548 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:33 pm to slackhouse)
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Only if your school is equal to Kentucky or Vandy. You mean to tell me that Auburn isn't at a level that they couldn't poach a winning coach that is at some lower level BCS school? Do you really accept that Auburn isn't on the same level as Alabama, LSU, and even Arkansas?
Spare me this shite.
I can play the examples game too
who did uga hire?
what about oklahoma?
Florida?
Oregon?
Those guys don't look like vandy or UK to me.
Or has your argument moved again to where we shouldn't even consider coordinators, and especially former ones?
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NYCAuburn
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| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:41 pm to slackhouse)
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Only if your school is equal to Kentucky or Vandy. You mean to tell me that Auburn isn't at a level that they couldn't poach a winning coach that is at some lower level BCS school? Do you really accept that Auburn isn't on the same level as Alabama, LSU, and even Arkansas? You aren't Ole Miss, and you're AD needs to stop hiring football coaches like you are.
Top 25, BCS schools, might not be the final top 25, but from a few weeks ago
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Notre Dame - proven head coach smaller school
Alabama - proven SEC head coach
Florida - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Oregon - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Kansas St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally)
Stanford - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Georgia - coordinator, no head coaching experience
LSU - previous head coach, mediocre
Texas A&M - proven head coach smaller school
S. Carolina - proven SEC head coach
Oklahoma - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Florida St - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Oregon St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally)
Clemson - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Nebraska - coordinator, no head coaching experience
UCLA - previous NFL head coach, mediocre
Michigan - proven head coach smaller school
Northwestern - position coach, no head coaching experience
Louisville - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Texas - proven head coach
So the count of the BCS schools in the current Top 25 BCS standings...
12 - coordinator, no head coaching experience
3 - proven head coach smaller school
2 - proven SEC head coach
1 - previous NFL head coach, mediocre
1 - previous head coach, mediocre
1 - proven head coach
So is your argument, hiring a cordinator is a bad thing?
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joeyb147 
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Member since Jun 2009
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| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/14/12 at 2:50 pm to slackhouse)
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You mean to tell me that Auburn isn't at a level that they couldn't poach a winning coach that is at some lower level BCS school? Do you really accept that Auburn isn't on the same level as Alabama, LSU, and even Arkansas?
Les Miles was 16-16 in the Big12. So spare me this high and mighty talk like you poached a proven winner from some other conference.
Saban only had 2 years out of 6 where he won more than 6 games before stepping foot in BR. And your coach before Saban was 9-22 in the SEC.
Before Saban, out of Alabama's last 3 coaches, only ONE had previous HC experience. And he was sitting at a 38% all time win percentage.
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GambitAUfan
Auburn Fan
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2010
362 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/15/12 at 10:24 am to joeyb147)
How do you feel about keeping a coach who LSU fans wanted to run off a few years back for his daft decisions?
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TheRig
Auburn Fan
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Member since Aug 2011
18638 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/15/12 at 11:49 am to CaptainBrannigan)
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Makes me want to drink bleach.
That would be the day.
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Cincinnati Bowtie
Oral Roberts Fan
Kenner, LA
Member since May 2008
3529 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/15/12 at 11:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions)
Arnsparger WAS the DC at Miami when he was hired by LSU. His only HC experience was with the Giants, where he was horrible and didn't even finish the season. In fact, he was the Giants coach, who decided to run a play instead of kneeling at the end of a game, thus the Eagles' " Miracle in the Meadowlands" fumble return for a TD by Herm Edwards.
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Cincinnati Bowtie
Oral Roberts Fan
Kenner, LA
Member since May 2008
3529 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/15/12 at 11:30 pm to NYCAuburn)
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Clemson: Coordinator
Clemson: Position Coach
FIFY
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dgnx6 
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
16357 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/16/12 at 1:55 pm to joeyb147)
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Les Miles was 16-16 in the Big12. So spare me this high and mighty talk like you poached a proven winner from some other conference. Saban only had 2 years out of 6 where he won more than 6 games before stepping foot in BR. And your coach before Saban was 9-22 in the SEC. Before Saban, out of Alabama's last 3 coaches, only ONE had previous HC experience. And he was sitting at a 38% all time win percentage.
Some of our fans think we can hire anybody we want. Im sure Ark and Ut felt the same way too. The fact is, its not as easy as some think. LSU had a horrible track record of hiring coaches. Saban wasnt even seen as a good hire when it first happened, neither did miles. They both worked out, not always going to go that way. Malzhan may end up being the best hire auburns ever made, or he may keep aub as a bottom feeder in the west.
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Bow to Auburn
Auburn Fan
Member since Aug 2010
981 posts
| re: Hiring past Auburn Coordinators to compete against Saban (Posted on 12/17/12 at 11:37 am to Doldil)
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oh there's a point... it starts with Troll and ends with ing.
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