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Diamondawg 
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:25 am to mograyback)
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The points is people with certain admirable qualities to their character usually avoid getting into politics because of what must be done to ascend the ranks. Didn't think it was really that difficult..
Name said people or there is no point. It's really not that difficult.
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mograyback 
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:30 am to Diamondawg)
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Name said people or there is no point. It's really not that difficult.
What? Haha, I'm pretty much laughing over here. The point is these people don't even get into politics in the first place because of what is involved with being a career politician, so we can't possibly know who they are... The quote below really isn't difficult to understand. You are obsessed with going against anything I say, you're more than welcome to disagree with this, but at least disagree properly. This is not difficult to grasp.
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The points is people with certain admirable qualities to their character usually avoid getting into politics because of what must be done to ascend the ranks. Didn't think it was really that difficult..
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Patrick O Rly 
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:38 am to mograyback)
I get the feeling you believe there is some novel shite pinging around that caveman head of yours. Or maybe you know you're full of shit, but your own voice just sounds so damn good to you. Either way, thanks for the entertainment. 
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:40 am to Patrick O Rly)
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I get the feeling you believe there is some novel shite pinging around that caveman head of yours. Or maybe you know you're full of shit, but your own voice just sounds so damn good to you. Either way, thanks for the entertainment.
Don't bother with big boy thoughts.. just worry about those 100 level classes you're freaking out about.
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Diamondawg
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:42 am to mograyback)
They make more money doing what they do rather than politics
They don't like public speaking
They have no inclination for public service
They might have to move (or at least maintain 2 residents)
Cost of campaigning
Great character and great at what they do but does not transcend to politics
Do not want to go through the public scrutiny (especially with today's social media access)
Spouse tells them not no but hell no
Kids tell them not no but hell no
Many, many more reasons.
Your reasons:
sleazy politics
phoniness of politics
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Patrick O Rly
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:43 am to mograyback)
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Don't bother with big boy thoughts
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:52 am to Diamondawg)
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y make more money doing what they do rather than politics
They don't like public speaking
They have no inclination for public service
They might have to move (or at least maintain 2 residents)
Cost of campaigning
Great character and great at what they do but does not transcend to politics
Do not want to go through the public scrutiny (especially with today's social media access)
Spouse tells them not no but hell no
Kids tell them not no but hell no
Many, many more reasons.
I'm sure all of those reasons keep certain people out of politics. But it is also true that some people refrain from getting into it because of it doesn't suit their character.. they would never want to get involved with what it takes to be a successful career politician. (The gap thing is pretty lame.. just so you know, I know it's a popular thing around here though).
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Zed 
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:59 am to mograyback)
I'm sure our political process discourages a lot of decent people from seeking public office, and is responsible at least in part, for our congress being filled with power hungry attention whores. I certainly won't argue against that. Term limits could possibly cull the herd a bit, but what else could you realistically do about it?
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:13 pm to Zed)
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I'm sure our political process discourages a lot of decent people from seeking public office, and is responsible at least in part, for our congress being filled with power hungry attention whores. I certainly won't argue against that. Term limits could possibly cull the herd a bit, but what else could you realistically do about it?
Term limits would be one thing to combat the current political arena. Germany has had great success with adopting this concept. A lot would have to change for things to get better, probably things that are hard to define, like some of our culture and values in general.. I understand your hesitation to think we can't do much about it. I'm more or less was just making an observation that our system discourages a lot of quality people from seeking office.
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Paluka 
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:40 pm to mograyback)
I'm sure all of those reasons keep certain people out of politics. But it is also true that some people refrain from getting into it because of it doesn't suit their character.. they would never want to get involved with what it takes to be a successful career politician. (The gap thing is pretty lame.. just so you know, I know it's a popular thing around here though).
Ill help you out. Who are some of our past politicians that served who were high in character? Perhaps they served before things got so rough?
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OleWar
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:48 pm to mograyback)
You are right I believe people who suffer from this, will not do well in politics.
Individuals with Paranoid Personality Disorder are generally difficult to get along with and often have problems with close relationships. Their excessive suspiciousness and hostility may be expressed in overt argumentativeness, in recurrent complaining, or by quiet, apparently hostile aloofness. Because they are hypervigilant for potential threats, they may act in a guarded, secretive, or devious manner and appear to be "cold" and lacking in tender feelings. Although they may appear to be objective, rational, and unemotional, they more often display a labile range of affect, with hostile, stubborn, and sarcastic expressions predominating. Their combative and suspicious nature may elicit a hostile response in others, which then serves to confirm their original expectations.
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:50 pm to OleWar)
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OleWar
Meh, poor timing. My post before your degrading attempt was polite and cooperative. You should have waited to drop this bomb when I was going off on somebody. 4/10. Effort and substance was there, but poor timing ruined the burn.
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TN Bhoy 
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:51 pm to mograyback)
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Ahh, pompous would be if I said certain things without provocation.. when someone say's I haven't read any of what I've claimed, yet I've continually referenced those works in my posts it's frustrating
I can reference books without reading them. I can find superficial comparisons or thoughts from them and throw them in my posts. But that does not mean that I've read them. If you've actually read Dostoevsky, you would know that he is completely antithetical to Thoreau. From this, I know that you have not read at least one of these authors and have just thrown them in your posts to make yourself sound intelligent.
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:56 pm to mograyback)
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Real genuine musicians would never do American Idol.
I've never watched American Idol. Not even once. Can I have a cookie?
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:57 pm to TN Bhoy)
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I can reference books without reading them. I can find superficial comparisons or thoughts from them and throw them in my posts. But that does not mean that I've read them. If you've actually read Dostoevsky, you would know that he is completely antithetical to Thoreau. From this, I know that you have not read at least one of these authors and have just thrown them in your posts to make yourself sound intelligent.
I'm pretty sure that Che Guevara and Scott Avett are rather 'antithetical'.. one is okay with killing, the other gets sick at the sight of fighting. Those two men were listed, and I seem to draw influence from both of them.
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TN Bhoy
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:58 pm to mograyback)
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I'm pretty sure that Che Guevara and Scott Avett are rather 'antithetical'.. one is okay with killing, the other gets sick at the sight of fighting. Those two men were listed, and I seem to draw influence from both of them.
You are extraordinarily stupid.
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:58 pm to Zach)
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I've never watched American Idol. Not even once. Can I have a cookie?
Honestly, yes.. you deserve many cookies for avoiding that show. Insert bow down emoticon.
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:04 pm to TN Bhoy)
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You are extraordinarily stupid.
Haha, you didn't think I'd be able to have a quality response for your boomer.
You said I have two influences that are antithetical and because of that it proves I have not read anything that I've claimed to have read. I showed you how two of my other influences are extremely antithetical.. and I seem to draw influence from both of them.
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Paluka
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:09 pm to mograyback)
Who are some of our past politicians that served who were high in character? Perhaps they served before things got so rough?
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mograyback
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| re: Music legends/American Idol/Politicians (Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:12 pm to Paluka)
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Who are some of our past politicians that served who were high in character? Perhaps they served before things got so rough?
I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make.
I guess I'd say I don't think there are too many that reached high levels of our government, the career politician game has been this way for a long time.
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