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TheDoc 
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| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/12/12 at 8:36 pm to 4LSU2)
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matthew25 
Ole Miss Fan
Member since Jun 2012
1677 posts
| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:16 am to TheDoc)
1.45 % for medicare. Total of 7.65 for employee, and 7.65 for company = 15.3%.
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jiggy0 
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Lafayette
Member since Nov 2012
156 posts
| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 8:39 am to TupeloTiger)
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He is going to create a Corporation for each store so it will be below 50 employees each so he's not forced to buy Obamacare.
This will not work if the companies are owned by the same entity and are conducting the same type of business, such as a restaurant or retail chain. The breakout companies will be counted as one entity for the purposes of employee count for AHCA. They've closed that loophole before it even came out the gate.
However, if there are different divisions of a company doing unrelated activities you may have an argument for the breakouts standing on their own.
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Poodlebrain
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Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
12895 posts
| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:29 am to jiggy0)
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However, if there are different divisions of a company doing unrelated activities you may have an argument for the breakouts standing on their own.
It is simple to close that type of loophole, if it actually exists. Simply look to see if common management/administration activities exist or other benefits are shared by the separate activities, such as 401(k) or profit sharing plans. If they are then the activities get aggregated for Obamacare purposes too. Employers would have a headache setting up multiple HR and payroll departments and separate 401(k) plans for the separate activities that would deprive them the expected savings of circumventing Obamacare.
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redandright
Member since Jun 2011
1636 posts
| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 9:50 am to TheDoc)
Everybody's forgetting the point.
Obamacare is not intended to provide healthcare. It is intended to destroy the private insurance/healthcare industries and replace it with SinglePayer.
Geesh!
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TheDoc
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Louisiana
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| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:08 am to redandright)
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Obamacare is not intended to provide healthcare. It is intended to destroy the private insurance/healthcare industries and replace it with SinglePayer.
Certainly appears to be the end game
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matthew25
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Member since Jun 2012
1677 posts
| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 10:49 am to TheDoc)
I assume the anon companies mentioned here are Wal-Mart and UPS, cutting from 32 hours and no benefits, to 28 hours and no benefits?
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Duane Dibbley 
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Big Bad Baz
Member since Nov 2011
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| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:28 am to moneyg)
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The brilliance is in the fact that these low knowledge people like the one in the OP will ultimately blame the business...instead of the very legislation that forced these changes.
Yep 
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TigerFanatic99
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Elkhart, IN
Member since Jan 2007
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| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 11:31 am to matthew25)
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I assume the anon companies mentioned here are Wal-Mart and UPS, cutting from 32 hours and no benefits, to 28 hours and no benefits?
This. but I find the spin fascinating.
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Chimlim
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
10424 posts
| re: Employers already cutting hours to below 29 in BR: (Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:06 pm to TheDoc)
Who didn't see this coming?
How can Obama put this into law without thinking of things like this?
If government gets heavily involved in business, and mandates every company pays health insurance for employees working more than 40/week....of course they'll cut back on hours. It's common sense. It's very scary that our leaders have such little common sense.
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