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Bayou Sam
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Yes, be sure not to parrot whig history.

The English monarchs wanted to be absolutists, and absolutism was their official ideology more or less. It's also important to realize that absolutism was a doctrine most often associated with Protestantism rather than Catholicism, at least in the 16th c and early 17th c.

It's also worth considering absolutism as a response to confessionalization--i.e., the proliferation of religious sects. See in this connection the Edict of Nantes, for the French side of the ledger.

But I really don't get the question...how did they govern???






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It's also important to realize that absolutism was a doctrine most often associated with Protestantism rather than Catholicism, at least in the 16th c and early 17th c.


I would not include this in your paper. The Spanish and French kings, the Austrian emperor, and the Papacy would all disagree with this. The Stuart kings of England as well. Caesaropapism is what first instilled absolutism into European monarchies after the fall of Rome, not some Hobbesian theory of the nature of man; but Louis XIV established the first completely absolutist monarchy that would flourish until the War of Spanish Succession.

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But I really don't get the question...how did they govern???


This implies the prof wants you to talk about the bureaucracies that actually did most of the governing.






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Bunsbert Montcroff
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It's also worth considering absolutism as a response to confessionalization--i.e., the proliferation of religious sects. See in this connection the Edict of Nantes, for the French side of the ledger.

for sure. but i think that is a symptom of the broader response to confessionalization: state building.






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redandright
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This implies the prof wants you to talk about the bureaucracies that actually did most of the governing.


I think she's more interested in Parliament vs Estates General.

Post Restoration England saw the gradual assertion of Parliamentary power, which really culminated with the Victoria in the 19th century.

You might want to note that with the first Revolution in England, then the rule of Cromwell, the Brits had had enough of war, so when William and Mary usurped her father, it was done with Parliament, and was a Revolution of the aristocracy and the bourgeoning middle class. This set the stage for the Constitutional Monarchy that rules Britain today.

Both France and England had been wracked by Civil War. The Fact that France was part of larger continent made it more vulnerable to outside interference. England's island provided it a little more room to fight out its Civil Wars. France was the opposite, as noted. Louis ascended the throne after the Regency of his mother, since his father died at an early age. She was always fighting off attempts by the nobles to take the throne away from her which she was holding for her son. Louis was determined to weaken the nobles and this he did by bringing them where he could keep an eye on them. Louis XIV brought in the aristocracy to Versailles where he neutered them(not really)and kept them from formenting trouble out in the countryside. The Estates General just became the King's rubber stamp.

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