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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 5:44 pm to TN Bhoy)
fail thread.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 5:45 pm to cwill)
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ach met a teenager at the Starbucks who told him he was a libertarian-marxist; therefore, most teenagers are dumb and don't know anything about philosophy or libertarianism. That's Zach!
I can promise you no libertarian marxist would visit starbucks, well maybe to burn it. He does live in S-port, which to paraphrase luke skywalker...If there's a bright center to the universe, you're in the city that it's farthest from.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 72024 posts
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| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 5:55 pm to buddhavista)
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Basically there is no leader, all decisions are communal, no property, but also no rules. I think its unworkable, but its the current banner for the anarchists who protest at WTO and the like.
Nah, I was downtown Seattle during the WTO protest and they don't understand the term anarchy no more than they understand Libertarianism. I've seen some small communes and most fall apart for the same reason we all suspect they would.
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Zach  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 55440 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:01 pm to cwill)
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Zach met a teenager at the Starbucks who told him he was a libertarian-marxist; therefore, most teenagers are dumb and don't know anything about philosophy or libertarianism. That's Zach!
Nope. But my barrista did frig up my espresso today when she let it stand too long. She made me another one.
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Zach  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 55440 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:02 pm to buddhavista)
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He does live in S-port,
Nope. I live in the forest.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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Nah, I was downtown Seattle during the WTO protest and they don't understand the term anarchy no more than they understand Libertarianism.
Well this is what chomsky pitches. And he is the closest thing they have for a spokesperson. I would tend to agree that they don't understand what anarchy is, or they have a very skewed perspective. I think its just angry young men. And women that want to frick angry young men.
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I've seen some small communes and most fall apart for the same reason we all suspect they would.
Yeah, every "collective" i have seen ends up falling apart. people are stupid and need leaders.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:04 pm to Zach)
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He does live in S-port, Nope. I live in the forest.
in the general vicinity of s-port.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 72024 posts
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| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 6:05 pm to buddhavista)
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Yeah, every "collective" i have seen ends up falling apart. people are stupid and need leaders.
There is a religious commune not far from here but I suspect they aren't nearly as equal as they once were. Used to have a half dozen locations and they are down to one, with a couple dozen people.
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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 7:06 pm to cwill)
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This again shows that most people value social liberty over economic liberty
No, this shows that a bunch of dumbass pot smokers value social liberty over economic liberty.
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cwill  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Jan 2005 18885 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:18 pm to TN Bhoy)
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No, this shows that a bunch of dumbass pot smokers value social liberty over economic liberty.
This post clearly shows that you are an out of touch catholic monarchist! Seriously I don't think anyone on this board is more wildly out of touch with the world, this country than a fruit cake like you...your like a weird fricking antique. 
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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:21 pm to cwill)
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This post clearly shows that you are an out of touch catholic monarchist!
I make a thread about young libertarians supporting Obama over Romney. You take that and decide that most of the country values social liberty over economic liberty. You don't see your fault?
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PortCityGirl35  Louisiana Tech Fan Shreveport Member since Oct 2012 426 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 9:58 pm to cwill)
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when voting for a lesser-evil some may choose the promise of social-liberalism by the Dems (though false and dumb expectation) over the lack of it found in the Rep party....knowing full-well that neither really are fiscally conservative.
Very good point. Also, for the past two elections the republican nominee has been 65 or over. Maybe they should try to groom someone younger to run at the top of the ticket.
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cwill  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Jan 2005 18885 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:03 pm to TN Bhoy)
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I make a thread about young libertarians supporting Obama over Romney. You take that and decide that most of the country values social liberty over economic liberty. You don't see your fault?
None whatsoever...you're post, the reason link supports it. What don't you get you antiquated fantasist?
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ForeLSU  LSU Fan The Corner of Sanity and Madness Member since Sep 2003 30366 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:29 pm to cwill)
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socially liberal tendencies of young libertarians
I can't imagine a libertarian wanting the government to shape the social landscape through policy...
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germandawg Member since Sep 2012 343 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/13/12 at 5:55 am to Zach)
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There is no such thing as a 'young' Libertarian. It takes thought, debate, and study to become Libertarian. That's why there are no teenagers or women at the Libertarian Convention. Edit: Just found this on Rand Paul. I agree with him. Just vote 'present'
Yes because it takes a genius to understand libertarianism,and it is patently unfair to ask a libertarian exactly what a truly libetarian society would look like. Riiiiiiggghhhhhhttttt.....
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germandawg Member since Sep 2012 343 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/13/12 at 6:05 am to buddhavista)
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Yeah, every "collective" i have seen ends up falling apart. people are stupid and need leaders.
All societies are collectives, and all socieities thus far in our collective history have ebventually collapsed. It hasn't anything to do with people being stupid, it has to do with people being people. It is in our nature to want more than someone else and some of us are leaders and some of us are followers and society falls apart when the greed that is inherent in all humans becomes all consuming and we have a charismatic leader who sales us on the idea of building an empire.....
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redandright Member since Jun 2011 1611 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/13/12 at 6:17 am to HempHead)
And to quote the great philosopher Carl Spackler, "And that's all she wrote"..... LINK
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cwill  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Jan 2005 18885 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/13/12 at 8:49 am to ForeLSU)
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I can't imagine a libertarian wanting the government to shape the social landscape through policy...
I wouldn't consider allowing women the choice of whether or not to abort or permitting more access to the marriage contract to be an intrusion. Purely, you'd prefer gov't out of marriage all together, but if they are in access should be open.
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NaturalBeam  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2007 12325 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/13/12 at 8:55 am to TN Bhoy)
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I make a thread about young libertarians supporting Obama over Romney
No. The poll has absolutely nothing to do with Libertarians, other than the dumb shite title of the article.
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Antonio Moss  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Mar 2006 25301 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/13/12 at 8:55 am to TN Bhoy)
Am I the only one who noticed that young "conservatives" also supported Obama over Romney at a 4% mark? And that the number of libertarians polled was 30? Why not just post a facebook poll? It would be about as accurate.
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