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TN Bhoy  USA Fan Philly Member since Apr 2010 33584 posts

| Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:15 pm)
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HempHead  Alabama Fan Appalachia Member since Mar 2011 10149 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:17 pm to TN Bhoy)
Yeah, they were Reason libertarians. They don't count. CONSERVATIVES VOTE FOR OBAMA ETA: What a shitty, shitty poll. http://reason.com/assets/db/13529210354519.pdf Reason sucks.
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 89070 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:19 pm to HempHead)
So they really weren't libertarians
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 73860 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:23 pm to TN Bhoy)
Libertarians.. Sure...
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Radiojones  LSU Fan Dutchtown, LA Member since Feb 2007 4483 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:24 pm to TheDoc)
Just wanting to smoke dope does not make someone a Libertarian.
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Zach  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 55842 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:36 pm to TN Bhoy)
There is no such thing as a 'young' Libertarian. It takes thought, debate, and study to become Libertarian. That's why there are no teenagers or women at the Libertarian Convention. Edit: Just found this on Rand Paul. I agree with him. Just vote 'present' Let the Dems vote higher taxes
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cwill  New Orleans Saints Fan Member since Jan 2005 19221 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:38 pm to TN Bhoy)
Though Obama is as terrible on many key social issues as the Republicans, he at least plays to the socially liberal tendencies of young libertarians. This again shows that most people value social liberty over economic liberty...I'm not here to argue that they are essentially related or that economic liberty precedes social liberty....The point is, and I have argued this in a number of threads, is that in order to get people to the party (whichever party that ultimately will be) of fiscal conservatism/freedom, it will have to drop old outdated planks regarding abortion and homosexuality...ending the fruitless drug war would help, too.
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Choctaw  Navy Fan Pumpin' Sunshine Member since Jul 2007 40526 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:41 pm to TN Bhoy)
dumbasses
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Sparty1  Michigan State Fan East Lansing Member since Aug 2011 135 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:44 pm to Zach)
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There is no such thing as a 'young' Libertarian.
What? I don't know that I've ever met an "old" libertarian, save for Ron Paul.
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Powerman  LSU Fan Corpus Christi, TX Member since Jan 2004 116282 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 3:56 pm to Zach)
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There is no such thing as a 'young' Libertarian. It takes thought, debate, and study to become Libertarian
I'm half your age and can embarrass you in just about any area of debate All you do is talk about anecdotal bull shite based on your hero stories with other allegedly lesser informed people and shite you heard on Rush.
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Zach  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 55842 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:09 pm to Powerman)
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I'm half your age and can embarrass you in just about any area of debate
Bring it. Right here.
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Radiojones  LSU Fan Dutchtown, LA Member since Feb 2007 4483 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:21 pm to Zach)
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Bring it. Right here.
shite just got REAL! 
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CP3LSU25  LSU Fan Lafayette Member since Feb 2009 28837 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:26 pm to TN Bhoy)
all ivy league students are pot smoking jobless cunts 
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lsu13lsu  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2008 1146 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:27 pm to TN Bhoy)
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Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10%
Someone doesn't know what Libertarian means. Either Reason or the youngsters.
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Doldil  Auburn Fan The Ham Member since Jan 2010 2612 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:28 pm to Zach)
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quote: I'm half your age and can embarrass you in just about any area of debate Bring it. Right here.

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udtiger  LSU Fan Louisiana Member since Nov 2006 18405 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:29 pm to TN Bhoy)
Dumbasses gonna dumbass.
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Drew Orleans  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2010 14194 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:31 pm to TN Bhoy)
Idiots.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:34 pm to cwill)
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This again shows that most people value social liberty over economic liberty...I'm not here to argue that they are essentially related or that economic liberty precedes social liberty....The point is, and I have argued this in a number of threads, is that in order to get people to the party (whichever party that ultimately will be) of fiscal conservatism/freedom, it will have to drop old outdated planks regarding abortion and homosexuality...ending the fruitless drug war would help, too.
This, and personally I value social liberty over economic liberty. I make a good living, and don't want for any material goods. If I were to lose my job, I would find one rapidly or start a business. more economic liberty doesn't benefit me much. Now more social liberty? I see the immediate benefits right there. Being able to smoke pot, seeing my gay friends get married, or making sure that young women can get me abortion offer me much more personal utility than tax rates going down or going up slightly.
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BamaFan89  Alabama Fan T-Town Member since Dec 2009 17803 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:34 pm to lsu13lsu)
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Someone doesn't know what Libertarian means. Either Reason or the youngsters.
I'm gonna go with Reason. I know many young people who identify as libertarians, including myself, that either voted for Gary Johnson or didn't vote at all.
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lsu13lsu  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2008 1146 posts

| re: Reason: Young libertarians supported Obama over Romney by 10% (Posted on 12/12/12 at 4:36 pm to BamaFan89)
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I'm gonna go with Reason. I know many young people who identify as libertarians
Couldn't agree more. I know a lot of young people who call themselves Libertarian. Unfortunately many refuse to vote. Which appears to be a self defeating prophecy.
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