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ocelot4ark
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Yet there are almost no threads on this site attacking them. I guess attacking cops is just the "cool" thing to do.



There's a difference between killing someone who's perfectly healthy (cop) and killing someone that's undergoing a medical procedure out of necessity.






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Yet there are almost no threads on this site attacking them. I guess attacking cops is just the "cool" thing to do.


true, you would think the occasional "surgeon closed my up with a 6 inch blade left in my leg" would pop up every once in a while.






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BTHog
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And, of course, the 99% of those "good cops" never treat actual GOOD people like shite. Nope. Never happens. We're all just out to shite on cops.


I already conceded that 1% of the time a cop is actually in the wrong through no fault of the suspect. Sure it happens but not as often as some of you would like people to believe.







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CarRamrod
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This is just further evidence that the profession attracts the lowest common denominator.
so you are telling me that if you owned a business and someone came in hootin at, hollaring at, and belittling you, your staff, and other patrons you are just going to be calm and courteous and serve them?






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killing someone that's undergoing a medical procedure out of necessity.


here go look at the stats of tummy tucks, face lifts, and liposuction.

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GreatLakesTiger24
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i find the cop's disregard of constitutional rights far more outrageous and disrespectful than the the punk kid.





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ocelot4ark
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Campus police ARE part of the school's administrative department , sorry you don't get that.


Link?

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You don't kill a suspect with kindness, that's just stupid and a good way to end up with more escelation


Are you fricking kidding me? You're telling me that a situation would be made WORSE by being nice to a belligerent suspect as opposed to being equally belligerent? SERIOUSLY? Jesus Christ.

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escelation


What were you saying about lowest common denominator, again?

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Cops are trained to end situations as quickly as possible, MOST of the time a good cop can control a situation verbally, then if that doesn't work you escalate to physically.


Are they trained to respond to belligerent suspects in a dick'ish manner? Yes or no.

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sorry bruh but that is just stupid of and proves you have no idea what you are talking about.


You DO realize that you can be perfectly civil and polite while you arrest, or even shoot someone, right? Simpleton.

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God damn dude come on. Are you seriously suggesting that if cops come across a suspect that's being a dick, they should just walk away?


Simpleton. Did I ever say that, simpleton? Read it again, simpleton. I'm saying, simpleton, that if a cop is dealing with a belligerent suspect it's best not to escalate the situation by being belligerent also. Not being belligerent does NOT mean that you walk away, simpleton. Being polite does mean that you ignore criminal activity, simpleton.

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For some reason, and it wasn't clear why, they believe that booze was poured out his dorm room window. Clearly that is cause for cops to check things out.


Exactly. It wasn't clear why they believe there was booze. Therefore there's no evidence of any reason for searching the room IN THIS THREAD. What exists beyond this thread or the video is a mystery.

Simpleton.






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CarRamrod
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find the cop's disregard of constitutional rights far more outrageous and disrespectful than the the punk kid.

I feel the same way about our Supreme court and President.






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ocelot4ark
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so you are telling me that if you owned a business and someone came in hootin at, hollaring at, and belittling you, your staff, and other patrons you are just going to be calm and courteous and serve them?


Congrats, you missed the point entirely. Should our children look up to cops? Yes or no? Should cops be an example for our kids? Should a child witness a cop returning barbs with a suspect, so that they can turn around and do the same on the playground?

Cops should set the precedent for all of us. They are the enforcement of society's moral compass. If cops return belligerent attitudes with the same, by God, then who are we to say that ANYONE should turn the other cheek if someone's being a dick?






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HarryBalzack
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ocelot4ark


Could you give us some insight into your bad experience with LEOs?

I've had run-in with a university cop who intentionally put a false report charge on a friend of mine in order to keep the campus crime statistics down (even the DA's office said the upd were being a-holes), and I got tickets from dickhead Alabama and Tennessee state troopers, but for each of those bad run-ins, I've probably had 10 good/helpful experiences with the police.

There are over-anxious Barney Fife types and those that obviously got into the profession because they've got little man, little dick, or little whatever syndrome and want to walk around with a gun, but that's what lawyers, laws, and procedures are for. Ultimately, you don't argue it out with the cops, you argue before a judge.

Perhaps if you explained that there was some basis for your anti-LEO feelings other than willful defiance of authority we could see where you're coming from with all this.







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KT70
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Man, that student is a fricking prick. Wish they would have tased him.


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CarRamrod
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Congrats, you missed the point entirely.
no i just think you cant see outside of your small little world






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DanTiger
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You DO realize that you can be perfectly civil and polite while you arrest, or even shoot someone, right? Simpleton.


Have you ever been in combat or any life or death situation involving an aggressive opponent in your life? Loud verbal commands and physical posturing is grenerally the only thing that will work short of the use of physical force if you are about to be attacked or shot at. This is true even in the animal world exclusive of humans.






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ocelot4ark
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here go look at the stats of tummy tucks, face lifts, and liposuction.


Did you have a point?

I never said people don't die from elective surgery. Anytime you go under anesthesia you take a risk of dying. That doesn't mean that a doctor is reckless, or escalating situations.






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Elleshoe
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DanTiger



you're an idiot. Do you know how I know? Because you're a cop. The academy =/= law school.






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DanTiger
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you're an idiot. Do you know how I know? Because you're a cop. The academy =/= law school.








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BTHog
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Are you fricking kidding me? You're telling me that a situation would be made WORSE by being nice to a belligerent suspect as opposed to being equally belligerent? SERIOUSLY? Jesus Christ.


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Are they trained to respond to belligerent suspects in a dick'ish manner? Yes or no.


Yes and yes. Proving once again that you simply have NO idea what you are talking about here.

People tend to naturally comply when spoken to in an authoritative manner. WHich like it or not is usually the fastest way to resolve a situation.

If you're a suspect and I'm the cop, and you are being a douche. I essentially have three options

1. just walk away - and that's not really an option

2. nicely ask you to surrender

3. in an authoritative voice ORDER you to surrender.

I'm sorry man, but you are beyond retarded if you don't understand that option 3 is going to be the quickest resolution 99 out of 100 times.

and that is EXACTLY how police are trained. Now that doesn't mean violate anyone's rights, but some of you seem to think you have a right to not have cops be mean to you. There is no such right.

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Exactly. It wasn't clear why they believe there was booze. Therefore there's no evidence of any reason for searching the room IN THIS THREAD. What exists beyond this thread or the video is a mystery.

Simpleton.


Again, learn the law. THey do not have to explain shite to you to enter your room. I assume if you were punished for something they found you would receive some sort of hearing and they would have to prove you did something wrong at that time; but the kid agreed that school officials could enter his room at any time with no other stipulations. Meaning they don't have to even have a reason, let alone give the kid one.







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Elleshoe
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learn the law


this coming from you is rich.






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ocelot4ark
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re: Ignorant UK Campus Cops caught on video violating civil rights


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Could you give us some insight into your bad experience with LEOs?


What makes you think I've had any? Are people so simple minded to believe that only personal experiences can dictate opinion? I've never been to war, but I have opinions on that. I've never worked at the Federal Reserve, but I have opinions on that.

The worst encounter I've ever had with a cop was nothing to write home about. He was being a dick and lecturing me from the moment he came up to my window. I'm actually incredibly respectful to law enforcement and really appreciate all that they do.

But there's always room for improvement in any society.

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Ultimately, you don't argue it out with the cops, you argue before a judge.


Never said otherwise. I'm saying a cop shouldn't go down to the suspects' level and get into a mud slinging contest.

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Perhaps if you explained that there was some basis for your anti-LEO feelings other than willful defiance of authority we could see where you're coming from with all this.


What, specifically, am I saying that's so out of touch? That our cops should be held to a higher standard? OH NOES! That it's best not to escalate situations? HOLY frick, what a stupid concept!






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BTHog
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Have you ever been in combat or any life or death situation involving an aggressive opponent in your life? Loud verbal commands and physical posturing is grenerally the only thing that will work short of the use of physical force if you are about to be attacked or shot at. This is true even in the animal world exclusive of humans.



I've tried explaining that to them. They don't want to see.






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