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Patrick O Rly
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I need help with my Western Civ Final.


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Be sure to explain in depth: Political developments in 16th and 17th century in England and France. How did they govern?



She's asking me to explain 200 years of political developments in two separate countries, and this is a damn 100 level class.

Could someone point me in the right direction of some consolidated info? My brain is mush right now.







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Antonio Moss
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Make sure to discuss the Seven Years War. It could be argued that from its ashes sprung the development of Western Civilization Republicanism.


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Burt Reynolds
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Government of France went to shite after Louis 14 died. English people had more freedom with parliament keeping Henry in check. Not hard to write about. In on my phone but if you paypaled me fifty bucks I'd write it for you





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Patrick O Rly
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I'm not looking for someone to write it. I can write it just fine. My brain is just fried and I'm having trouble getting pointed in the right direction.





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CarrolltonTiger
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Since the Seven Years War was in the 18th century that is probably not a good idea.





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Zach
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Make sure to discuss the Seven Years

We never learned about that war. How long did it last?






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Bunsbert Montcroff
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Could someone point me in the right direction of some consolidated info? My brain is mush right now.

your textbook or lecture notes?

write something that includes these keywords and you should be fine:

english reformation, french wars of religion, english civil war, glorious revolution [increasing parliamentary authority], thirty years war, richieleiu, mazarin, louis xiv [absolutism], etc.






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Antonio Moss
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Since the Seven Years War was in the 18th century that is probably not a good idea.


True. Holy mistake. DO NOT WRITE ABOUT IT.






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Lsupimp
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I'd compare/contrast England and gradual limited monarchy with France and absolute monarchy, :

England,Henry Eighth, Elizabeth I, Catholic Church/Anglican schism,The Emerging New World and Global Expansionism, The growth of the Monarchy and spread globally of English rule and principles,The ugliness and instability of Succession, Scotland/English cooperation because of James I, Guy Fawkes, challenges to The Crown,Charles I, Scottish Rebellion,Oliver Cromwell, Charles II and The Clarendon Laws, William of Orange, England goes with Limited Monarchy (France absolute),hint hint hint, English Bill of Rights....

France: Slides into absolute monarchy,through louis xi, louis 13 and 14, 30 years war,The Sun King, expansionism into Americas etc...






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Patrick O Rly
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Thanks man. Thanks to everyone who helped. I just needed a jumping off point. History is not my bag. I'm a science major.





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Political developments in 16th and 17th century in England and France


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Make sure to discuss the Seven Years War.




ETA: nvm I just read the whole thread



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buckboudreaux
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dont forget to write about us leaving them fricks..........





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If you can somehow work in that unions are bad for the human race, whether or not it is true, you are sure to graded favorably, provided the professor is a regular poster on the poli board.





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True. Holy mistake. DO NOT WRITE ABOUT IT.
Dang, I was about to tell him to make sure he covers the French Revolution but Antonio kinda beat me to that kind of response.






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Hawgon
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I'm not too much of an expert on France, but I can give you England in a nuttshell:

In the very late 15th Century the War of the Rose ended and Henry VII consolidated power monarchy and brought the aristocracy to check. His son, the famous Henry VIII continued this process and finally made the monarchy the more or less supreme power in England when he broke from the Catholic Church and the pope over the matter of his divorce from Ann Bolyne and made himself head of the Church of England. This action started the Protestant Reformation in England and Henry's son Edward VI, further brought England under the sway of the Protestants.

After Edward's early death at the age of sixteen, his sister, Mary spent most of her rule trying to make England Catholic again and even married the very Catholic Phillip II of Spain. After Mary's death most likely from stomach or uterine cancer, Henry VIII's last child, Elizabeth I became queen.

Elizabeth's reign was a golden age in England that saw its emergence as a power on the world stage, first as thorn in the side of the Spanish, and then as a genuine power with the defeat of the Spanish Armada in 1588. Prominent names like Sir Walter Raleigh and Sir Francis Drake entered the lexicon of the English language during her reign.

Elizabeth was known as the Virgin Queen because she never married and she died childless in 1603. Her cousin by way of descent from one of Henry VIII's sisters, was James VI of Scotland. Upon her death, be became king of England as James I.

James I was protestant but was sympathetic to a degree to Catholics, until one of them (Guy Fawkes) tried to kill him in the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. It was during his reign that the King James Bible was written.

James had a contentious relationship with Parliament and this continued when his son, Charles I became king after his death in 1625.

By the time Charles I became king, England was deeply and radically protestant. Charles, while nominally protestant, was known to be sympathetic to Catholics and suspicioun against him was heightened because he was married to a Catholic princess. So, his reign was marred by religious conflict throughout and from the beginning. Further, he did not aid European protestants in their continental wars against Catholics.

Finally, in 1642, things boiled over. Charles I entered Parliament by force in an attempt to arrest six members for treason. He failed and had to flee London where he set up court in Oxford and began raising an army. Parliament began raising an army as well and civil war was afoot.

Eventually, after several starts and stops, truces, and broken agreements, Parliament won the war and Charles was arrested. The leading general of the parliamentary forces was Oliver Cromwell and he had been largely responsible for the radically protestant and largely professional New Model Army of parliament. And in 1649, after a short trial, Charles Stuart, as he was styled in his death warrant, was beheaded on a scaffold in front of Whitehall.

This lead to a period where England was a Commonwealth and Oliver Cromwell was the Lord Protector of England. As Lord Protector, Cromwell was the virtual dictator of England. Cromwell ruled until his death in 1658. He was an effective ruler and did some really nasty things in Ireland after invading it.

Upon his death, Cromwell's son Richard came into power, but as happens so many times, the son was not up to snuff compared to his father and the Long Parliament was reseated and officially asked Charles' son to come back and rule England as king and Charles II in 1660. One of the first things the Royalist did upon returning to power was to dig up the corpse of Oliver Cromwell, hang it in chains, and behead it.

Charles II was no more successful in his dealings with Parliament than his beheaded father had been. And his reign was tulmultuous in that respect. His court was known to be rather hedonistic. He died in 1685 and his son, James II, took over as king.

James II's reign was to be short. He was both pro Catholic and pro French, and thus, very unpopular in England. Further, he was abrasive and strongly believed in the divine right of kings. Finally, in 1688, Parliament rebelled and asked Prince William of Orange and his wife, Mary to come over from Holland be the joint rulers of England as king and queen.

James II fled to France without a fight when William landed in England. The events of 1688 are known as The Glorious Revolution of 1688 and it forever cemented the supremacy of Parliament in governing England and from that moment, monarchs in England, served at the pleasure of Parliament.

So, it can be said in a nutshell that the 16th and 17th centuries in England saw power consolidated in a central government and then it saw a struggle as to whether this power was to be wielded and controlled by an absolute monarch or Parliament with Parliament being victorious in the end. Further, it was a period of religious strife between Catholic and Protestant with protestants being victorious in the end as well in England.






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goatmilker
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Is it a take home essay test paddy?





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Thanks man. Thanks to everyone who helped. I just needed a jumping off point. History is not my bag. I'm a science major.


it's easy brahhh. just write about queen elizabeth and louis 14. copy everything off the wikipedia pages and make up sources and you should be gold.






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Noooooooooooo





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Patrick O Rly
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Is it a take home essay test paddy?



No. It's an online class, but I have to go to a testing center. I just gotta read to beef up on it.






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You have multiple things to address. First, as has been mentioned, England was a limited monarchy while France under Louis XIV solidified the doctrine of absolute monarchy by divine right. You can also look at the different approaches to imperialism that the two countries exhibited. England sought a more widespread mercantilist system spread across the globe over that time period, while France pursued a more restrained colonial system. The best one that would distinguish your paper from others would be the rise of bureaucracies in both countries. Nationalism was a new concept, but under Louis XIV we saw the first true central government. England would remain more localized for centuries because of the influential baron system that established its power with the Magna Carta and held on late into the colonial era. Meanwhile, the absolutism of Louis XIV allowed for the consolidation of provincial power into one government bureaucracy that could administer a single government purpose or policy. This would eventually lead to the French Revolution but its structure has been copied across the world.





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