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HempHead
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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would you be for anarchy?


Sure.

I see no reason for the state.






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TrueTiger
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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Valid question. I say look at the intent of the founders of this country and the Constitution. They believed in a limited government. This government would cover essentials like military expenditure roads, bridges. When you start taking money away from people to give to others, that's when it becomes theft. Everyone can use a road, not everyone can use a welfare check



Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

I don't mind taxes for roads, bridges, sewers, armies, navies, parks. That stuff all benefits the public at large. We all get to use the road, the army and navy are there to protect all of us, we can all use the parks, etc., etc.

You start to lose me when you take from one individual and hand it over for the exclusive benefit of another individual.






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HempHead
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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That stuff all benefits the public at large.


Is there any particular reason that these services must be a monopoly provided by a government?






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Blue Velvet
Colorado State Fan
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Member since Nov 2009
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


So theft is okay?

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That stuff all benefits the public at large
Debatable.






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WikiTiger
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Member since Sep 2007
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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I don't mind taxes for roads, bridges, sewers, armies, navies, parks. That stuff all benefits the public at large.


But I do mind.

Why do you feel justified in taxation for those purposes?

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You start to lose me when you take from one individual and hand it over for the exclusive benefit of another individual.


But what if the people that do support that feel it "all benefits the public at large"?


In other words, you are ok with some taxation for things that you approve of, but are against it for others. The problem is that you have no philosophical consistency guiding you. What makes your pet projects better than someone else's pet projects?






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cwill
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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To quote an old kite flyer "when the people learn to vote themselves money will mark the end of the republic"


There is no evidence Ben Franklin ever uttered those or similar words.






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TrueTiger
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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you are ok with some taxation for things that you approve of


Not necessarily approve, tolerate is more accurate. I admit that some form of limited government (like fire) is beneficial. The thing is, if you let it get out of hand, it will burn your shite to the ground. The arguments about where to draw the line are endless. What make sense to me might not to you, and vice versa. No two people are exactly alike, especially their opinions. No doubt our system of government is flawed, but I still haven't seen anything out there I like better.






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Blue Velvet
Colorado State Fan
Kenai, Alaska
Member since Nov 2009
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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Not necessarily approve, tolerate is more accurate.
You tolerate theft from your neighbor.
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(like fire) is beneficial
link?
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The arguments about where to draw the line are endless
So let's not draw a compromising line. Theft is never okay.
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What make sense to me might not to you, and vice versa. No two people are exactly alike, especially their opinions.
Exactly. Unlike you I do no think theft is a suitable foundation for a way of life.






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Gmorgan4982
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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Have we become a "theft" society?
Become? People have been voting for a long time.






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Gmorgan4982
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


BV's back.





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Gmorgan4982
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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I say look at the intent of the founders of this country and the Constitution. They believed in a limited theft.
FIFY






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Blue Velvet
Colorado State Fan
Kenai, Alaska
Member since Nov 2009
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


Thanks for the support brother





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WikiTiger
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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Thanks for the support brother


Yea, glad to see you back.

We need more AnCaps here so that we can jerk each other off in threads.






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pistolpete23
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Member since Dec 2007
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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There is no evidence Ben Franklin ever uttered those or similar words.



There's no evidence he didn't either is there?






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HempHead
Alabama Fan
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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We need more AnCaps here so that we can jerk each other off in threads.


It's like r/circlejerk in here.






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Zach
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Member since May 2005
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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There's no evidence he didn't either is there?

You guys are all wrong on the source of the quote. But I can't look it up right now. It was before Franklin.






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HempHead
Alabama Fan
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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There's no evidence he didn't either is there?


Well, without any evidence to affirm the positive....






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Zach
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


I'm going with Alexander Tytler.





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Gmorgan4982
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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We need more AnCaps here so that we can jerk each other off in threads.






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TrueTiger
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re: Have we become a "theft" society?


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Unlike you I do no think theft is a suitable foundation for a way of life.



This is a hasty generalization.

What foundations do you find suitable? Anarchy? Law of the jungle?






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