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| So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:38 am)
According to scientists and US News and World Report, its epigenetic. Its like passing obesity from parent to child. Something that essentially can be controlled if one chooses to.
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Long thought to have some sort of hereditary link, a group of scientists suggested Tuesday that homosexuality is linked to epi-marks — extra layers of information that control how certain genes are expressed. These epi-marks are usually, but not always, "erased" between generations.
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Evolutionarily speaking, if homosexuality was solely a genetic trait, scientists would expect the trait to eventually disappear because homosexuals wouldn't be expected to reproduce.
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There is compelling evidence that epi-marks contribute to both the similarity and dissimilarity of family members, and can therefore feasibly contribute to the observed familial inheritance of homosexuality and its low concordance between [identical] twins
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Rickety Cricket 
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:40 am to League Champs)
Does that mean we can keep them boys from marryin'? Hope so, git r done!!!!!
Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. 'Nuff said!!!!
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:41 am to League Champs)
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Something that essentially can be controlled if one chooses to.
Where is this stated in the article?
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:42 am to HempHead)
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Where is this stated in the article?
So you dont know the definition of epigenetic it appears?
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:43 am to League Champs)
1) I find the info and the research interesting. Thanks for bringing it 
2) I honestly do not care if it is a straight <no pun> out CHOICE and some simply decided to like it. It bothers me not one little bit.
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:44 am to League Champs)
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So you dont know the definition of epigenetic it appears?
Nothing that I am familiar with would suggest that one can ultimately control gene function. I am no geneticist or biologist, however.
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:45 am to League Champs)
League champs, how do you control your epigenetics?
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:45 am to BlackHelicopterPilot)
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2) I honestly do not care if it is a straight <no pun> out CHOICE and some simply decided to like it. It bothers me not one little bit.
Shut your damn fingers up on the board and get down to pleasuring me. 
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:46 am to BlackHelicopterPilot)
I bet the self-proclaimed "party of science", i.e. democrats, will not like or support this information.
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:46 am to League Champs)
It was my understanding that scientists had dismissed the idea of a single gay gene for a while now. This makes more sense I guess.
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Kickadawgitfeelsgood
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:48 am to League Champs)
Conservatives don't believe in scientists.
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:49 am to HempHead)
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Nothing that I am familiar with would suggest that one can ultimately control gene function. I am no geneticist or biologist, however.
In order for one to be gay, something acted upon that gene. In the case of obesity or diabetes or the honey bee changes, the cause is known, and can be addressed
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A well-known example is that of the honey bee. Larvae that are fed with a pollen and nectar diet develop into worker bees, while those fed royal jelly develop into queens, growing larger and with different morphology
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Swedish men who were exposed during preadolescence to famine in the 19th century were less likely to die of cardiovascular disease. If food was plentiful, then diabetes mortality in the grandchildren increased, suggesting that this was a transgenerational epigenetic inheritance
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:50 am to League Champs)
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So you dont know the definition of epigenetic it appears?
So you're saying that epigenetic, heritable traits can be controlled? How?
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:52 am to League Champs)
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In order for one to be gay, something acted upon that gene.
So it is not the choice of an individual that causes the change in gene function?
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:53 am to DeltaDoc)
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I bet the self-proclaimed "party of science", i.e. democrats, will not like or support this information.
Did you read the article? It's not saying that gays aren't born that way, it's that the gayness isn't occurring on the DNA level but on the expression of the gene - it's a heritable trait - not a social condition. Changes nothing, does not validate the gay-away work of Michelle Bachman's gay husband.
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:54 am to cwill)
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So you're saying that epigenetic, heritable traits can be controlled? How?
One, by identifying the cause prior to birth. Two, by changing habits associated with the epigenetic change, thereby reducing or eliminating its passage; as in obesity. DNA cannot be altered by behavior, epigenetic characteristics can is my intial take from reading the news article
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:55 am to HempHead)
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So it is not the choice of an individual that causes the change in gene function?
No...I think he's suggesting that the epigenetic problem can be identified and controlled so as to prevent homosexuality...we're basically where we already are. Gays are born gay...if you can ID, formerly the gene now the gene expression, you can control the gay.
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:56 am to League Champs)
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the cause is known, and can be addressed
Does this mean that gayness can be "addressed" with some kind of therapy, diet or drug?
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:56 am to Kickadawgitfeelsgood)
Kickadoosh off the top rope to kill a thread dead in it's tracks with his hard hitting indepth comment! 
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| re: So it turns out being gay is not in the DNA (Posted on 12/12/12 at 10:58 am to League Champs)
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Your thread title is going to lead a bunch of folks to jump, not read the article and post under the false belief that homosexuality is a choice.
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