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MountainTiger 
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:21 pm to Indiana Tiger)
That seems to confirm what most of us always believed: that Archer was a good coach but couldn't recruit to save his life and that Hallman wasn't much better (and worse as a coach). I blame Brett Favre.
Here's another "what if". What if DiNardo had hired a competent coach instead of Lou Tepper?
This post was edited on 12/11 at 5:22 pm
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Ponchy Tiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:21 pm to Baloo)
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not all of it, but he was arguing that LSU football was not in the dire straights that, say, Colorado is in today. And that's not true. We were are rock bottom program who had fallen into irrelevance. We were a bad program.
LSU was no where close to the level that Colorado has dropped too.
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Brbengal
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:25 pm to MountainTiger)
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What if DiNardo had hired a competent coach instead of Lou Tepper?
...........or, if he wasn't so hard headed as to retain Tepper after his failed defenses.
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Tchefuncte Tiger 
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:35 pm to SammyMarley)
Q: How many Aggies does it take to ruin a college football program?
A: One, if it's this guy: 
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MountainTiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:36 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger)
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LSU GrandDad
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:38 pm to NathanL)
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How times change, buyout for his last season was $98k
in those days, contracts were lived up to. that's why hallman stayed the whole 4 yrs. LSU honored his contract. the notion of a negotiated buyout just wasn't around until a few years later; ditto for notre dame with gerry faust. the hell of it is, after a coupla years all the recruits knew he was toast after the next year so our recruiting took a huge hit. tejas a&m and fsu had a field day taking our recruits.
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choupiquesushi
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:48 pm to alajones)
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Worst LSU coach in history?
Curley Hallman.
curley picked up where mike archer left off...
but when archer took over we were a 10 win team.... when he left.. uhmmm
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choupiquesushi
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 5:53 pm to LSU GrandDad)
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in those days, contracts were lived up to. that's why hallman stayed the whole 4 yrs
he had a 5 year contract
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TheTruthPolice
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:58 pm to SammyMarley)
LINK
Start watching around 53 seconds into it
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tigerpimpbot 
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:12 pm to Guy Sajer FS)
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Curley Hallman
Fricking dumarse gump
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vjp819
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:13 pm to Duckman13)
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I think the thing that really stings, is that they took Hallman over Spurrier.
Don't let it get to you to bad. Spurrier was passed over for Archer not Hallman. Archer was hired at the recommendation of Arnsparger who just went down to Gainsville to talk, but while talking he decided to be the A.D. at Florida.
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TIGRLEE
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:20 pm to SammyMarley)
Lou tepper
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Bayou
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:21 pm to vjp819)
Curley
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oiltiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:30 pm to vjp819)
Shortly after Hallman was hired, we had him at a function to welcome him to LSU. I by chance happened to be standing with him as we went through the buffet. As I was sitting down after listening to him, I said to myself, it is obvious that I don't know anything about football because the smart people that hired this man must know something that I don't. I thought he was amoung the stupidest people I had ever met based on that 5 minute conversation.
After I observed his coaching, I realized that I did know more about football than he did.
Also, he said one of the most brilliant things at that get-together.
He said that the LSU program was in such bad shape that it was going to take years before it got better and things were going to be worst in the next couple of years.
That statement allowed the adminsitration to think that he was improving the program the first few years.
But now we know the idiot was a disaster.
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oiltiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:35 pm to vjp819)
Asw I said in post some time ago, Spurrier was not only not given the coaching position instead of Archer, he was highly insulted and taken to the Capital instead of the LSU campus when he arrived in Baton Rouge, While there and being call a boy that doesn't understand Louisiana politics, Archer was named coach at the suggestion of Arnsparger.
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USMCTiger03
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:37 pm to SammyMarley)
Whoever is coach at present.
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ShermanTxTiger
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:04 pm to SammyMarley)
Could be argued Mike Archer. The LSU was better when Curley left than when he arrived. Can't say that about Archer.
Both sucked BTW
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tigerinridgeland
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:09 pm to Y.A. Tittle)
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I would argue that this is simply attributable to the talent pool in the State of Louisiana (and the fact that a good number of it will end up at the single major college football program in the state, regardless of how crappy its doing at the moment) versus the talent pool in the State of Colorado, much more than anything having to do with anything Curley may have done positive as a coach here (which is essentially, nothing).
Someone with more information, feel free to correct me, but I understand, Hallman did a lot of damage to LSU's recruiting in North Louisiana, he apparently alienated a number of high school coaches and potential recruits. I don't recall the details, but there was a problem.
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clamdip
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:39 pm to Indiana Tiger)
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Arnsparger (in 3 years) recruited 18 players drafted
Archer (in 4 years) recruited 6 players drafted
Hallman (in 4 years) recruited 9 players drafted
BOOM go the frick'n dynamite.
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Polycarp
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:03 pm to TheTruthPolice)
Watch it!, hell I lived it, damnit, I was there for that arse whoopin..
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