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saintsfan92612
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re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.

yeah, most are agreed that this is bullshite


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liquid rabbit
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re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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"Unlike Saints' broad organizational misconduct, player appeals involve sharply focused issues of alleged individual player misconduct in several different aspects."

Interpretation: Players have a union, and we're not going to fight that. Coaches and front office -- screw 'em.


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rondo
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63910 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
This us like pardoning a guy a week after he is executed

And in the pardon saying he did commit the crime.


TheBoo
New Orleans Saints Fan
The Bay Area
Member since Aug 2012
768 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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"Strong action was taken in this matter to protect player safety and ensure that bounties would be eliminated from football."


They accomplished what they wanted to accomplish.


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Get em Vilma


Get em Vilma
This post was edited on 12/11 at 1:00 pm


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Lee County Tiger
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re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.


Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
91370 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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This us like pardoning a guy a week after he is executed

And in the pardon saying he did commit the crime.



its like a free ride when you already paid




Putty
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2003
21843 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
Also, reading it closely. Tags dances around the whole issue and simply finds "conduct detrimental"...in other words nothing in his express findings affirms any pay-to-injure or "bounty."

For perspective a player can be fined or suspended for "conduct detrimental" for offseason arrests, tweeting during the game, etc.

ETA: he did apparently make specific reference to the evidence supporting Goodell's finding of the Vilma bounty on Favre...which interestingly gives Goodell a defense in the defamation suit...something Tags certainly would know as a lawyer.
This post was edited on 12/11 at 1:07 pm


lsumailman61
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Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
5634 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
I'm happy for the players but frick Goddell and Williams. Can we get out draft picks back please because our defense needs players in a bad bad way!


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Chad504boy
New Orleans Saints Fan
Greenbriar WV
Member since Feb 2005
91370 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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finds "conduct detrimental"


Link to Roger Goodell's resume past 2 years.


Byron Bojangles III
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re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
Also didn't see it mentioned the 500k fine was vacated.


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John McClane
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re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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its like a free ride when you already paid
it's like good advice that you just can't take


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TexasTiger6777
New Orleans Saints Fan
Surrounded by Longhorns and Aggies
Member since Jan 2008
2639 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
I apologize. I didn't read the whole thread, but is there any mention of possibly replacing the stolen draft pick last year?

Maybe a silly question, but I didn't want to start a thread,


Chad504boy
New Orleans Saints Fan
Greenbriar WV
Member since Feb 2005
91370 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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but is there any mention of possibly replacing the stolen draft pick last year?


no cause organization still did wrong.


tiger perry
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Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2009
17865 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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Bduhon55
New Orleans Saints Fan
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Sep 2008
3203 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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sounds like a chicken shite escape strategy for the league while still trying to create a factual basis to protect Goodell from Vilma's defamation suit and protect NFL from organizational backlash due to the bull shite imposed on the Saints. Color me unsatisfied.

EXACTLY!


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seibert23
New Orleans Saints Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
154 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
This ruling means NOTHING! Just like someone said before, they've accomplished what they wanted. Nowhere does its clearly state "Players were 100% innocent". The ruling is a hopeful step to get vilma to drop the "Defamation Suit", but I say "Give them NOTHING, but take from him EVERYTHING"!!


Patrick O Rly
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
38468 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
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they've accomplished what they wanted.


Except getting Vilma to drop his defamation suit, which he won't.


bengalbabe4eva
LSU Fan
The city of Saints and sinners
Member since Sep 2007
1366 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
So where do I meet for the protests during Superbowl week... Got my Sign!


BestBanker
LSU Fan
stuck in a moment
Member since Nov 2011
4221 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
Vilma's suit is the kicker in all this mess! Thankfully he did sue and thankfully he did not rescend his suit!
Blame now is fully on the organization and coaches becauce they must blame someone to stay off the hotseat! And, CSP hasn't sued and most likely won't sue!

This is one big you-know-what!

Goodell should be let go with a large payout, at year's end.

WOW.


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Chill Pill
LSU Fan
Between a Rock and a Hard Place
Member since May 2009
498 posts

re: Players are free!!! All player discipline vacated.
I wouldn't do too many cartwheels over this ruling. Read it closely and its reinforces the bounty program, the players' involvement, and the coaches involvement. It basically says that player discipline is pointless at this juncture because of the poisoning of the well perpetrated by the Saints organization.

What really stinks -- and I bet commentators across the nation will start saying this because it is so blatant that it's ridiculous -- is that Tagliabue went to Goodell and said, "You made a mess of this. You were correct on the bounty findings, but you went too far with the players. What do you want me to do to save face for you and the league?"

To which Goodell said, "You're right. I'm a total fricking complete moron. Just validate my findings, withdraw the player discipline and blame it all on the Saints."

To which Tagliabue said, "That's exactly what I was thinking, and if you had called me beforte this shite broke, I would have told you to do precisely this you fricking incompetent piece of shite."

To which Goodell went to his knees and promptly blew the ex-commish.



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