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dagrippa  LSU Fan Saigon Member since Nov 2004 1429 posts

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Worst ever was the dumpster fire that was Malveto
No. Let me guess...you were born in the late 90s.
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nycajun  LSU Fan Nothin' could be finer..... Member since Dec 2004 16881 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:43 pm to SammyMarley)
Looking at the list of Clemson coaches in the 20th and 21st centuries who were there for more than 1 season, there appears to be 4 coaches whose records were significantly worse than West's. Indeed, the legendary Frank Howard's record was not dramatically better. Are you limiting yourself to coaches in your lifetime? Or is West's kid just the wrong Watkins?
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Y.A. Tittle  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2003 44099 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:44 pm to Ace Midnight)
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Archer is/was a pretty good DC and a great linebackers coach. He was too young (I always defend Archer by reminding people that he is 3 1/2 months older than Les Miles), the wrong man at the wrong time, however you want to explain it. Also, Archer won more games in his first 2 years than Hallman won in 4, had a winning record in the SEC - just a number of things to make him much better than Hallman.
Correct. Archer was ultimately not a good coach, who was proven to be in over his head. He doesn't, however, deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Curley, in a discussion of terrible coaches.
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munchman  LSU Fan Sportsman Paradise Member since Feb 2006 4847 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:45 pm to Ace Midnight)
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Hudson "Curley" Hallman
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And he was so bad we can't name a second worst.
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alajones  LSU Fan Barksdale AFB Member since Oct 2005 19284 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:45 pm to Duckman13)
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I think the thing that really stings, is that they took Hallman over Spurrier.
Is that right? I thought we took Archer over Spurrier.
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SammyMarley  Clemson Fan Member since Dec 2012 322 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:46 pm to nycajun)
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Looking at the list of Clemson coaches in the 20th and 21st centuries who were there for more than 1 season, there appears to be 4 coaches whose records were significantly worse than West's. Indeed, the legendary Frank Howard's record was not dramatically better. Are you limiting yourself to coaches in your lifetime? Or is West's kid just the wrong Watkins?
Well Howard did more for Clemson than the record. He stopped Big Thursday which was playing the Clemson/SC game every year in Columbia and never in Clemson. But yes he was mediocre overall. West took a good program and turned it bad and also the attendances at some of the 90's games were horrible. Some of them would dip down to the low 60,000's. He did not put people in the seats. Ingram and Parker were bad too
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Bryon Bojengles III  LSU Fan Member since Nov 2012 5348 posts
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| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:46 pm to dagrippa)
Mid 80's. you don't have to have grand kids to have an opinion on this.
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jladne3  New Orleans Saints Fan Katy, TX Member since Nov 2010 337 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:49 pm to SammyMarley)
You can blame Brett Favre for LSU hiring Curley Hallman 
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lsu7171  LSU Fan baton rouge Member since Mar 2004 3651 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:50 pm to jladne3)
yes lsu hired archer over steve spurrier.
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Sev09  LSU Fan Anthony Jennings Fan Club, Founder Member since Feb 2011 4639 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:50 pm to mylsuhat)
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OBVIOUSLY Les Miles
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stapuffmarshy  Syracuse Fan lower 9 Member since Apr 2010 12905 posts

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Mid 80's. you don't have to have grand kids to have an opinion on this
no but a brain may help. If you seriously think the co-DC's were worse than Curley.....well then....... you should stop posting, seriously. That might be the dumbest thing ever posted on this board
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lsu7171  LSU Fan baton rouge Member since Mar 2004 3651 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:51 pm to lsu7171)
instead of crazy 'bout curley. it was curley 'bout crazy . but some golden girls sure like them some hallman
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MondayMorningMarch  LSU Fan Pumping Sunshine. She's cute! Member since Dec 2006 9276 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:51 pm to Ace Midnight)
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Also, Archer won more games in his first 2 years than Hallman won in 4, had a winning record in the SEC - just a number of things to make him much better than Hallman.
Archer won with Arnsparger's players. When they moved on we went into the shitter.
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Y.A. Tittle  LSU Fan Member since Sep 2003 44099 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:52 pm to jladne3)
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You can blame Brett Favre for LSU hiring Curley Hallman
I prefer to blame Joe Dean. 
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alajones  LSU Fan Barksdale AFB Member since Oct 2005 19284 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:52 pm to SammyMarley)
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Some of them would dip down to the low 60,000's
Hallman did this at LSU also. Although it would be halftime and we would be down 40 points to Florida.
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CharlesLSU  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2007 15722 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:52 pm to lsu7171)
frick hudson
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TigersOfGeauxld  LSU Fan Across the burning sands... Member since Aug 2009 14966 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:53 pm to SammyMarley)
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oh man. 4 straight losing years in the early 90's. What was wrong with him?
His focus at LSU was banging cheerleaders, to the exclusion of all else. He's married to Alabama state representative Tammy Irons, who's nearly 20 years younger than he is. He still likes 'em young.
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dagrippa  LSU Fan Saigon Member since Nov 2004 1429 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:55 pm to jladne3)
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You can blame Brett Favre for LSU hiring Curley Hallman
It's really not debatable who the worst coach is...I don't think anyone here would say someone was worse than Hallman. His utter destruction of the football team has made a lasting impression on our fans even today. He is the primary reason for our fans suffering the "catastrophe syndrome". The coordinator that jumps out to me is Tepper. Worst by a long shot IMO.
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OntarioTiger  LSU Fan Canada Member since Nov 2007 317 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:59 pm to TigersOfGeauxld)
What Honkus and LSU7171 said – curley bout crazy In the Old War Skule DVD they mention Hallman for 15 seconds and its about 30 seconds too much. Thank God they did not have the “meltdown” in the 90’s LSU fans would have been a staple 
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AHouseDivided  LSU Fan Member since Oct 2011 2499 posts

| re: Worst LSU coach in history? (Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:59 pm to Duckman13)
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Lou tepper- "It takes players 5 years to learn my system"
Was Tepper the one who had the infamous "drop linebacker?" The local sports radio talk shows had a field day with that every afternoon. 
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