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The Mick 
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:18 am to LSUSUPERSTAR)
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This question comes up every so often around here. If you are serious, I would contact the athletic department and LSU to see if you can get some information.
Although Im going by foggy memory alone, Im sticking with my reason. LSU doesnt claim it b/c players were paid and some were not students.
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LSUsCRYSTALball
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:20 am to RedStar)
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I mean, c'mon Carlisle Indian School?
QUOTE FROM NEXT CENTURY:
"I mean, c'mon LSU and Alabama played football in the early 2000's? HA I only thought they knew how to play ultimate frisbee"
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Tchefuncte Tiger 
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:21 am to RedStar)
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I mean, c'mon Carlisle Indian School?
Was Jim Thorpe on this team?
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RedStar 
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:22 am to LSUsCRYSTALball)
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QUOTE FROM NEXT CENTURY:
"I mean, c'mon LSU and Alabama played football in the early 2000's? HA I only thought they knew how to play ultimate frisbee"
Do you guys not read past the original post?
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nvasil1
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:24 am to RedStar)
If A&M can retroactively claim 2 NCs, we can legitimately claim 1908.
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RedStar
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:26 am to nvasil1)
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If A&M can retroactively claim 2 NCs, we can legitimately claim 1908.
That's all I'm saying. And it's not so much claiming them as it is acknowledging that it was awarded. It's not like this is just a made up fact. LSU was awarded a National Championship in 1908, why the hell shouldn't it be acknowledged?
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LSUsCRYSTALball
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:28 am to RedStar)
Lets claim it 
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Phoenix43
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:29 am to RedStar)
If we played it and won it then we should acknowledge it and add it to the list of the ones we have won. Apparently LSU did what needed to be done to be deemed champions so I say add it, JMO.
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JollyGreenGiant 
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:30 am to RedStar)
If I'm not mistaken, we don't claim it because we were awarded that title retroactively. Unlike Bama (several of theirs were awarded retroactively), we don't claim it. We have titles in '35 and '36 we don't claim for similar reasons.
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athletemed
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:30 am to nvasil1)
because the 1908 team, lead by Doc Fenton could have legitimately been considered a professional team at the time...
Fenton was "heavy recruited" to come to LSU which meant money, whores and booze.... 
not that there is anything wrong with that...
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nvasil1
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:41 am to athletemed)
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because the 1908 team, lead by Doc Fenton could have legitimately been considered a professional team at the time...
There's that too, not to mention southern football obviously didn't have the same reputation back in that day.
Also, I've read in the past that Penn, Harvard and UChicago were all clearly better than LSU in '08.
But hey, if the NCF thinks we deserve a share of that title, the school might as well too.
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Pilot Tiger 
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:45 am to nvasil1)
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Also, I've read in the past that Penn, Harvard and UChicago were all clearly better than LSU in '08.
this is very debatable
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LSUsCRYSTALball
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:48 am to athletemed)
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Fenton was "heavy recruited" to come to LSU which meant money, whores and booze....
... Isn't that why we all came here 
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2geaux
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:52 am to RedStar)
Carlisle was a big deal then. They had Jim Thorpe!
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Me Bite
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:55 am to RedStar)
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Sure it's a split title, but so is 2003 and no one has a problem claiming it
You don't know much about college football...
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RedStar
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:00 am to JollyGreenGiant)
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We have titles in '35 and '36 we don't claim for similar reasons.
'35 & '36 weren't handed out by the National Championship Foundation.
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nvasil1
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:00 am to Pilot Tiger)
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this is very debatable
No doubt it's debatable.
Here's a decent article that breaks down the cases for each team in '08.
LINK
ETA: This part of the article cracked me up...
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LSU is not even a legitimate contender. But to the school's credit, they do not claim this "national championship." Alabama would already have made the banners and rings by now if it were them.
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RedStar
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:00 am to Me Bite)
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You don't know much about college football...
Is there anything I said in that post that's wrong?
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RedStar
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:06 am to nvasil1)
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No doubt it's debatable.
Here's a decent article that breaks down the cases for each team in '08.
LINK
Hm... not sure how I feel about it. Seems like he did some research, but unless he was alive in 1908, I doubt he actually saw any of those teams play. At the end of the day, he's just a blogger. He has a valid opinion, but it's no more valuable than yours or mine.
If the National Championship Foundation saw fit to award the 1908 National Title to LSU, I see no reason the football program shouldn't acknowledge it.
Plus acknowledging it is a way of validating LSU throughout the course of CFB history. It shows that LSU has always been good, unlike some flash in the pan program like Florida who's only been relevant since the 90's.
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TenTex
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| re: 1908 National Champions (Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:10 am to RedStar)
Alabama and USCw exaggerate their NC's. Our 2003 was a BCS National Championship. Our 3 are rock solid!
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