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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:02 am to jcole4lsu)
2 things: I've worked in plenty of manual labor/ factory situations/ working with inherently dangerous stuff coming up that people would do similar stuff to this (have a beer at break) and not once did we have a problem with it(granted i've seen people take it overboard and get sent home for night/day). It wasn't all the time but it happened fairly frequently.
second, I have a serious problem with someone stalking workers and harassing them in their private life. If this had had been drinking and they were obviously fricked up when they got back, send them home (if it happens on multiple occasions, fire them).
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jcole4lsu 
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:35 am to petar)
I used to run a logistics office and warehouse. If anyone ever drank on the job, at break, or came to work intoxicated they would be fired and rightfully so. Its a ridiculous liability and this notion they have some sort of right to drink a little is absurd.
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RogerTheShrubber 
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:40 am to petar)
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second, I have a serious problem with someone stalking workers and harassing them in their private life. If this had had been drinking and they were obviously fricked up when they got back, send them home (if it happens on multiple occasions, fire them).
Dude, you seem to be going overboard here. Most companies have a zero tolerance policy. Alcohol and machinery at work don't mix, I understand why someone may report them.
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber)
Dude is trolling 
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jcole4lsu
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:53 am to Jbird)
Liberal logic: ban soda, approve beer at work 
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Jbird
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:55 am to jcole4lsu)
Well and weed in Washington! 
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petar
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 12:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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Dude, you seem to be going overboard here.
Yea i guess i am. Not pro-union, guess I just don't like how this happened.
In this circumstance i guess, the ends justified the means. Drinking is obviously not a positive thing for any profession especially one with a dangerous environment
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 12:32 pm to petar)
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Yea i guess i am. Not pro-union, guess I just don't like how this happened.
In this circumstance i guess, the ends justified the means. Drinking is obviously not a positive thing for any profession especially one with a dangerous environment
I am union neutral, but totally understand why a company that manufactures vehicles would want someone off the assembly line who is drinking. I also understand why coworkers may not feel safe working around that person and why someone may report it.
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C
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 12:37 pm to Zahrim)
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OSHA strongly supports comprehensive drug-free workforce programs, especially within certain workplace environments, such as those involving safety-sensitive duties like operating machinery.
So govt regulation that saves lives: mehh.
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jso0003 
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:07 pm to C)
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Not sure about Kia/Hyundai or BMW who have plants in the US.
I toured the Kia plant in West Point, GA not too long ago and one of the gentlemen there was very clear about if there were to ever be a hint of unionization that KIA would have no problem getting the frick out of there as fast as possible.
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jso0003
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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If this had had been drinking and they were obviously fricked up when they got back, send them home (if it happens on multiple occasions, fire them).
What kind of fantasy land do you live in?
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mograyback 
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:10 pm to Zach)
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WSJ says GM inventory is at 170 days. Normal is 60 days. GM not doing well at selling their crap.
I'd argue we're not doing well at evolving.
The fact that we still pump out yearly models of the same vehicle with mostly cosmetic modifications is the problem.
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/9/12 at 6:11 pm to mograyback)
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The fact that we still pump out yearly models of the same vehicle with mostly cosmetic modifications is the problem.
it's only a problem if people don't buy them
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jso0003
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:32 am to mograyback)
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The fact that we still pump out yearly models of the same vehicle with mostly cosmetic modifications is the problem.
Seriously, you think THAT is GM's biggest problem?
This is channel stuffing plain and simple. Don't over think it.
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CP3LSU25
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/10/12 at 9:39 am to Zahrim)
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wow you are a fricking retard. I hope you work in that environment and get hurt because of a drunk with that kind of attitude, you own it.
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The Cow Goes Moo Moo 
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:58 am to petar)
Where in the world do you work that it's ok to drink during lunch break???
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Godfather1
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:14 pm to Zach)
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WSJ says GM inventory is at 170 days. Normal is 60 days. GM not doing well at selling their crap.
Probably because they've got a slew of stinking union alkys assembling their product.
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:20 pm to mograyback)
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The fact that we still pump out yearly models of the same vehicle with mostly cosmetic modifications is the problem.
How many iphones have you owned?
And where I work we do both monthly random testing (true randoms) and then would base a targeted drug test in reasonable suspicion. If you fail a drug test, you're gone with the quickness.
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petar
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:23 pm to The Cow Goes Moo Moo)
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Where in the world do you work that it's ok to drink during lunch break???
I've had lunches where lawyers, CPAs drank. When I was in DC, Congressional staff members.
In my younger days, home fabrication, bulkmail printing, construction, etc.
Ive had a cocktail, beer at lunch plenty of times with white and blue collar professionals..
Shocked that no one on this board has had a beer at lunch then gone back to work.
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C
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| re: UAW: you can't fire workers drinking on the job. (Posted on 12/10/12 at 12:30 pm to petar)
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I've had lunches where lawyers, CPAs drank. When I was in DC, Congressional staff members.
yep no difference between office work and heavy machinery.
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In my younger days, home fabrication, bulkmail printing, construction, etc.
Yep they also had asbestos and didn't require safety harnesses at heights... the good ole days...
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