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Peazey 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:44 pm to SidewalkDawg)
I just discovered this thread. It seems like it would be one of the greats if oml would stop teasing everyone. It's been a year. Come on, man. Please. Maybe it's just been built up too much.
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DayBowBow 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:17 pm to Peazey)
I watched a little bit on Wednesday night and something new jumped out to me.
When Kevin realizes he's all alone he's in his pajamas and his hair is messed up. The next scene is him jumping up and down in khakis and a sweater with his hair fixed.
You mean to tell me an 8 year old is going to get dressed up to go wild once he realizes he's all alone?
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ThereGoesHerschel 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 2:46 pm to OMLandshark)
Motherfricking shite I just had an awesome and lengthy post to contribute and computer crashed first. Dammit.
I'll try to remember some of it
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ThereGoesHerschel
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 3:09 pm to ThereGoesHerschel)
Ok I will try to remember most of what I had typed, but it was fairly long so I might forget some. Dammit.
Sticking with the overanalyzing theme here:
-How shitty of a job did the Chicago PD do at first? The parents call and are frantic that they left their son behind all alone in the big city. So some policeman saunters up to the door, knocks a few times, peers in the door window, then says “ah frick it. Nobody home”. Couldn’t they have called a locksmith or something to go with a police to the house and get access? They sure gave up REAL quick on him not being home.
-The burglars really were awful. When Marv creeps in the window and steps on the first ornament, you’d think he wouldn’t continue to step on about 9 more. Also the feather trap. I mean that would be a pretty good way to slow someone down, but if these burglars were worth a damn, they’d pause for about 1 second then run after Kevin. Instead he just stands there for his close up and spits out feathers.
-When he's in the store and runs out, why not just drop the toothbrush? I know fear does weird things and makes people clam up, but it seems like it would have the opposite affect in this example. Seems like kevin would drop everything and get the hell out. Instead, he takes off in a dead sprint will keeping his death grip on the toothbrush. Just seems unlikely.
-As mentioned, some of these traps would be instant death. They get hit in the face with a massive steel bar, directly in the face, then fall backwards straight onto their backs onto a concrete basement floor. Didn’t really seem to phase them.
-Also, how unrealistic is it that the burglars (and little nero’s pizza, and the hotel workers in HA2, etc) are so fooled by kevin’s VCR cue ups? This is a tiny 9” TV on the kitchen counter. Even if at full blast I don’t think someone outside the door would believe it was a real person speaking. And c’mon, the scenes are synched up perfectly to what people say. Not to mention Kevin is a maestro with the remote and fast forwards to the precise instant correctly every time. This also happens with the talkboy when booking the hotel in HA2. IRL that would go something like this:
“Hotel, how can I help you?”
"This is Peter Mcallister, the faaaather"
"Who's father?"
"I'd like to get a room with an extra large bed,
"Ok, what date are you-
[interrupts]”a TV..
"All of our rooms have a TV sir"
"..and one of those refrigerators you have to open with a key”
“1 bed or 2? Smoking or non?”
“Credit card? You got it”
“I didn’t say anything about..”
click
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pleading the fifth 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 5:51 pm to ThereGoesHerschel)
Regarding the feathers getting blown by the fan: it's always bothered me that as soon as the antique-looking fan gets turned on the feathers fly like someone hit them with a leaf blower. Unless the fan goes from 0 to > 700 RPMs in 0.5 seconds it's completely bogus. It would take at least a few seconds for the fan to get up to speed to blow the feathers and it would be a gradual flight of feathers - not instant feather flight like if you just shot a goose at close range with a 12 gauge.
That's always bothered me for some reason.
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FairhopeTider 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:40 pm to pleading the fifth)
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That's always bothered me for some reason.
And let's not forget about that damn good plate of macaroni and cheese that was wasted.
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Purple Spoon
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:44 pm to FairhopeTider)
I was always pissed at how Peshi blinks his eyes several times and stays in place while his scalp is melting off. He could have made an attempt to be realistic with it.
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Kubricked
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:49 pm to ThereGoesHerschel)
Home Alone is the child fantasy. Total control of your space (house) with food fun and no parents around. But... He learns he misses his family and needs a human connection.
The teen version of this was John Hughs' Career Opportunity. Store all to yourself. Ideally a mall but store will do. Oh and add a hot chick.
But here's the antagonist - external threat. Now the schlub has to become the hero.
And let's do it as an action movie Die Hard spin. We get Mall Cop.
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Purple Spoon
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:55 pm to Kubricked)
Carrear Opp was a great flick.
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Lsuhoohoo 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:51 pm to Purple Spoon)
A few thoughts that came to me while perusing the thread.
1) So what about Harry's van?
Where'd he get the van? Harry is a low-level crook. Are we supposed to believe that bought the van? Not likely. It's probably stolen. Yet, he's just creeping around a neighborhood and parking in peoples driveways? Okay let's say it was Harry's own van. So he decided to have a big logo painted on the side? Ha. And should we believe that Harry was gainfully employed by Oh-Kay plumbing and heating? Even if he were, he likely wouldn't have control of a company van after dark. Yet he pulls up near 9 pm driving the van?
2) Harry and Marv are prison escapees. They got out of prison in Chicago during a prison riot. So fresh out of jail, they managed to fund a trip to New York? Then, as escaped felons, they're just wandering the streets of the biggest city in the United States? You'd think they might lay low or change their look. But here they are walking the sidewalks of New York looking the exact same as they did in Chicago.
3) How about the mess that would have been in the house? After Kevin's big adventure I doubt he had the energy to clean it up before his family got home the next morning. Obviously he didn't clean up Buzz's room (which wasn't even related to the big plan). Let's look at the messes that would have been left behind.
~Between night and morning when the family got home, the ice likely wouldn't have melted off of the stairs.
~The blowtorch is attached to the back door (which gives me another point I'll address later.)
~There is feathers all over the dining room floor
~Broken ornaments around the Christmas tree.
~Paint cans and a big arse pipe hanging from the stairs
So Kevin has a huge fricking mess all over the house and that's not the first thing the whole family sees when they walk in. Also he's lucky nobody came in the back door. And don't get me started on HA2 when Kevin broke into his relatives house and made a huge mess of their remodel.
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The fricking drapes are on fire! Given how much material is there, that fire would have spread fast and likely burned the house down.
5) The McCallister's have 5 kids. Surely they're friends with parents of other kids. Ok the neighbors are out of town? Surely you've got some friends that stayed in town for Christmas who could go over and check on Kevin. And don't give me the line about the phones being out because Kevin ordered a plain cheese pizza.
4) The polka band guys are trying to get back to Chicago and the best vehicle they can come up with is a Budget Rental box truck? I'm sorry, I didn't realize that Christmas time means a run on 15 passenger vans.
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ToesOnTheNose213 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/8/12 at 2:50 am to OMLandshark)
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Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone"
Kevin is dead; a ghost haunting his family's house.
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 1:19 am to OMLandshark)
I'm watching the Home Alone audio commentary and they said that the picture of Buzz's girlfriend was actually a guy in a wig. Mind blown!
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Fox Mulder 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 1:24 am to Lsuhoohoo)
Why doesn't Kevin call the police? He knows what time they're coming to his house.
Kevin's parents make several calls throughout the movie, but they never call their house to speak to Kevin.
Did the wet bandits plan on murdering Kevin? Obviously they would not leave a witness. Is a potential trip to the electric chair worth at max $10,000 in stolen goods?
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OMLandshark 
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 1:54 am to Fox Mulder)
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Why doesn't Kevin call the police? He knows what time they're coming to his house.
Kevin has learned to distrust authority figures due to his issues with petty much everyone with authority constantly dogging him. Can't say I blame the kid.
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Kevin's parents make several calls throughout the movie, but they never call their house to speak to Kevin.
Nah, they don't. They probably put in total of an hour trying to contact Kevin. Keep in mind that mid-way through the film, Kevin orders a pizza. The lack of frick given by the McAllister family is disturbing.
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Did the wet bandits plan on murdering Kevin? Obviously they would not leave a witness. Is a potential trip to the electric chair worth at max $10,000 in stolen goods?
They're not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
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Fox Mulder
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 2:06 am to OMLandshark)
Damn you. I made a thread full of questions last year, you promised me answers
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Fox Mulder
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 2:12 am to OMLandshark)
Huge chink in the armor for the Mcallister house. The window with ornaments...what if Daniel stern goes through that before going to the basement, what if Pesci goes through that?
How did Kevin clean all of that shite up?
How come no one asks Kevin any questions when he says some pretty alarming things? Santa, the creepy neighbor, etc...why doesn't the neighbor check on Kevin after he witnesses him stealing a toothbrush? Shouldn't he know his neighbors are out of town? Why do none of the Mcallister kids bear any resemblance? Blonde, ginger, brunette, fat, skinny? I half expect a Chinese Mcallister to pop up somewhere. Is Katherine a ho?
Why can't Kevin just pay the pizza man in person? I don't think pizza men ask questions nor are they dangerous. Consider this kid goes grocery shipping alone. That has to be a top 5 place for child snatchers.
I could go on
This post was edited on 12/9 at 2:28 am
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Fox Mulder
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 2:19 am to Fox Mulder)
Kevin literally thinks he made his family disappear, no questions upon their return? They even mention taking a flight.
How the frick does the old neighbor know about the "nasty" rumors going around? Children making up crazy stories is normal and they wouldn't exactly tell him. Makes me think this guy has had some real legal issues. Why doesn't he tell the cops about Kevin's involvement? Why don't the wet bandits? Couldnt the cops trace the 911 call? no caller id? did they even investigate? hey, why do you guys look like you just returned from okinowa? Could the wet bandits sue the Mcallisters?
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 2:34 am to Fox Mulder)
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Could the wet bandits sue the Mcallisters?
easily
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:24 am to saintsfan92612)
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Could the wet bandits sue the Mcallisters?
easily
for what?
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| re: Let's Overanalyze "Home Alone" and "Home Alone 2" (Posted on 12/9/12 at 3:34 am to ThereGoesHerschel)
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“Hotel, how can I help you?”
"This is Peter Mcallister, the faaaather"
"Who's father?"
"I'd like to get a room with an extra large bed,
"Ok, what date are you-
[interrupts]”a TV..
"All of our rooms have a TV sir"
"..and one of those refrigerators you have to open with a key”
“1 bed or 2? Smoking or non?”
“Credit card? You got it”
“I didn’t say anything about..”
click
Most of my analyzing the movie have already been said. But here are some I thought about
Kevin's mom enters the house, not calm but certainly not how I'd do it. I'd be full blast running and searching every room like a mad woman. I'd be screaming Kevin's name continuously. Not "Kevin? Keviiinnn?" the silence.
Kevin's family sucks. He definitely said things that I'd pop a kid in the mouth for saying (that doesn't get corrected- I guess you give up on your kids once you've had 5), but overall his siblings are worse. And I'd dislike Buzz on the fact that he's overweight, has a stupid haircut and gap teeth. Kevin is at least cute.
I'd have some words with Uncle Frank for calling my kid a little jerk. It's clear nobody likes his cheap, bald arse so use the opportunity of him stepping in your role to lay into him.
John Candy's role in HA1 was great. I wonder if the part about leaving the kid at a funeral was ad-libbed.
When I saw HA2 for the first time, and Kevin asks to go to the toy store I thought Cool! He'll go to that place in Big, and play that giant piano! Then it's like, here is a place nobody has heard of have a great time. Let down.
Harry thinks it's a good idea to scale a rope to get to Kevin's tree house instead of going back in the house? So this past middle age, over weight, man thinks he's going to scale that think like a champ instead of just being extra cautious while going into the house?
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